1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF. I have started the process of replacing the front axle king pins and bushings. GM Heritage site calls for the pin diameter of 1.109" and the bushings at 1.0975-1.1005". With these dimensions the pin would be tight in the bushings. The 1957 Shop Manual calls for the pin diameter of 1.109" and the bushings at 1.111", that seems to be too sloppy at .002" clearance. The eye in the axle is good so I'm using standard pins and bushings, whad'ya think, are they both wrong specs?
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
Just a note that the info in that screen shot indicates a different king pin size than what 78buckshot has noted.
Thinking it indicates that is only size being offered, which won’t be of help to him.
Thanks for the effort though!ðŸ‘
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Thank you both, the 1/2 ton bushings are already finish sized when installed but the 3/4 through 2-1/2 ton bushings all need to be reamed to a specific fit. Mine is a 2 ton with the standard axle. With 40"+ tire diameter it doesn't take much pin/bushing wear to see and feel the slop. I was lucky to find a NOS set of MOOG pins and bushings, I don't want to mess them up.
Last edited by 78buckshot; 12/14/202212:24 PM.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
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Well, that is kinda' what I was thinking also. It worries me that all of the specs are conflicting, other research tells me that it should be light hand press fit but that depends on more human error. I'll see what the machine shop owner has to say when I drop off the parts. Thank you very much for the added info, the 1957 Shop manual has that same paragraph and reamer P/N.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
Forget the reamer. Have an automotive machine shop with a Sunnen honing machine line-hone the bushings for a smooth slip fit between the new bushings and the king pin after they're pressed into the spindles. I've done dozens of them that way when i was running the connecting rod reconditioning department for a big machine shop. Jerry
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Thanks Jerry, I left the knuckles, new pins and bushings at the machine shop, they have always done a great job on anything I have taken to them. I should have them back this week and start re-assembly.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
I did the same thing with our 6400 king pins. I pressed the new bushings in and had a local machine shop hone them. They fit perfect. Not cheap, but I didn't have access to a reamer, so what are you going to do. I wanted them right. I found two partial sets on ebay to make one complete set with some extra parts.
I picked up my steering knuckles from the machine shop, installed the passenger side today, along with all new pins, bushings, shims, lower thrust washers, it's like new, zero slop and pivots easily. Tomorrow I hope to drain the steering gear, adjust the worm and sector, refill with 00 grease, put the drivers side all back together.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
Ya got any nice pictures of those fine looking parts to share?
Thank you sir!
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
OK, these are pics of cleaned , painted, partly assembled spindles. Waiting on new wheel seals in the mail, then I'll post pics of the wheels installed.
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1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
Thanks Buckshot. Everything looks fresh and ready for the next step.
Going to be some nice easy "wobble" free (at least for these parts) steering in the future.
Thanks for sharing.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
When I get it back together there should be no play in the front end. I drained and re-filled the steering gear, adjusted the worm and sector bearing play, replace the drag link/ball ends, replaced king pins and bushings, new tie rod ends. Wheel bearings on this model are tapered roller bearings and in great shape so I can adjust them to spec.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
I bled the brakes today and took the truck out to the 2 lane blacktop, steering is very nice now. I might give it a touch more toe-in 'cuz the camber looks pretty heavy. The specs call for 1/8" to 1/4" toe-in, minimum toe with minimum camber and maximum toe with maximum camber. I don't have an accurate means to measure camber but it is very apparent. The caster is probably not ideal due to the 10R-22.5's in the rear and 235/80/22.5's up front but it's good enough for the girls I hang around with.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy