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10% is alot of nickels at apr $110 of saving to get to your $1100 bill. Thank for your service... hopefully many more nickels will find there way to ya...

Coming along nicely.

I picked up the lumber purchased for the trusses this week. I'm still waiting on the last delivery of truss plates, should be here this afternoon. I'm going to start layout for trusses this week, I plan on building a jig after I get all the measurement for the first truss. I figure that by using a jig I can keep the the trusses uniform and avoid any problems with the layout. I'll post some pics as thing progress.

Concrete blocks: $277.00 (200)
Concrete Mix 80 Lbs. bags : $198.69 (22)
Hardware (rebar, J-bolts, deck screws): $83.17
Lumber ( 60-2"x4"x12'
8-2"x4"x16'
4-2"x6"x16'
8-2"x8"x16') : $1038.20
80-2"x4"x16' : $1168.35
truss Plates : $900.48

Sounds like your gonna be busy in the next week or two.

Just a quick update on the trusses. I have framed most of the first one, need only to add the struts and this first one will be finished. The rain is almost daily right now so not a lot getting completed. It looks like I need a roof to build my roof, go figure.

I calculated the cost per truss at $104.08 each with lumber and truss plates. I haven't figured in my labor as I consider it working for free (well maybe not).

Looks great!!

No pic- - - -just a black screen here. New server gremlins, I suppose! I've been known to use my 16 foot utility trailer with the angle iron side rails a foot off the floor as a support for a jig when building things like trusses. A set of screw type jack stands used for leveling a travel trailer allows me to stabilize all four corners and create a no-twist platform to support the jig. It's also portable to follow shade and hide from the rain, etc.
Jerry

Shade??? Jerry there seems to be very little of that.The heat index was 103 Saturday.

Yesterday my friend David lent a hand, we completed 4 trusses. Slow going but they should go quicker now, we made patterns for all of our cuts and worked on the layout. I'm happy with the results and how well the trusses have turned out.

Looking great Craig!

Looking good. An extra set of hands makes it a lot easier.

John

I'm about half way through with the trusses, now if the rain would just cooperate. We have had better then 7 inches since returning from the Jamboree

I plan to order the metal roofing before the end of the month, it should take a week or so to get it delivered. A roof before the end of August would be awesome.

Meanwhile the 59' is feeling left out

Dealing with the summer heat where you live I have a suggestion. When you put on your metal roof, make sure you install a ridge vent and soffit vents. Then apply foil faced foam insulation to the ceiling. The thicker the better. The foil acts as a radiant barrier reflecting the heat back into the cavity created by the roof and foil faced foam insulation the vents evacuate the excessive heat and it will feel like your under a live oak tree. You can apply 5/8” fire rated sheetrock directly over the foam as you finished ceiling.

Even if you decide to put in conventional fiberglass insulation on the ceiling, I would still install a radiant barrier on the roof rafters leaving a space so the roof can ventilate the excessive heat. You’ll be much more comfortable and it will lower you AC bill tremendously, if you so decide,.

Not sure if it applies the same in your area, but metal roofs that are not insulated will condensate and drip up here in Nebraska/Iowa. When installing my roof I also applied 1/4" thick foil faced foam before the metal. I know it was overkill, but I actually installed 7/16" OSB then the foam, with the metal roofing on top.

No drips or leaks in 16 years.

It is amazing how even 1/4' thick foil backed foam really does reflect the heat from the sun. I also applied it to my sidewalls before installing the steel siding. In hindsight, I wish I would have wrapped the sidewalls with OSB as well.

Note: The OSB was way cheaper back in 2006.

John

Phil, Jon,
The roofing system I plan to use will have a ridge vent as well as soffits. I want add thermostatically controlled ventilation fans in the ceiling, sort of a whole house fan, with vent in the gables. I have priced the foil backed foam board and thought about installing it as Phil suggested. I'm not sure if I will actually insulate the ceiling and walls as our winters are fairly mild here, I may do that later after I close in the siding.

OSB is going for around $18.00 a 4x8 sheet here, it can get expensive. The idea is to have a portion of the roof completed so I can deal with moving my shed, the da has to be moved to complete that end of the shop. As Jon said in hind sight I wish I had placed the shed farther out from the slab, that was 2012 though.

Your Winter's might be mild, but your Summers can be HOT!

If your putting metal siding on the garage I'd put 4' of OSB around the inside, so you don't dent the siding when something inside falls against the wall.

Mike B

You can buy it in 1/2” sheets at a reasonable cost. I just checked Lowes, and although the didn’t have 1/2” they did have 3/4” and its about $14 a sheet. [LINK]

I plan on using a wooden siding, more for ascetics than anything. The shop butts up to the house on one end, the house has vinyl siding but I don't want that for the shop. I was thinking about just using a rough cut pressure treated fencing slats, I can set the ends at random and just cut to length without a lot of waste.

As far as the roof, I think you all have convinced me to use OSB as an underlayment and insulate between that and the metal roof panels. The additional cost will be off set by the drop in temperature and the moisture barrier. I still plan on insulating the ceiling at some point although that may be later after the walls and doors.

Some great ideas here, thanks for the input.

Going in that direction, the reflective barrier needs an air space between the foil and the metal roof. Add the foam panels, shinny side up on top of your OSB, then add 1x3 perlins and screw your metal to that. If the foil touches the metal, you will render your radiant heat barrier ineffective.

Have you considered board and batten siding? Rough sawn directly from a local sawmill would be cheap and once stained, would last a really long time. No need for pressure treated lumber.

Craig, how about an update!

I was down for over a week with Covid, it just zapped all my umph. I finished the trusses this past weekend, I have use of a bucket truck to set them but that won't be for another couple of weeks. I have just under $2500.00 in materials for the trusses.

I have ordered the metal roof panels, 16ft x 36in 3 rib, 36 panels in all, that was quoted at $3200.00 with all the trim work. The roof panels will take about 2 weeks to be delivered. I am pricing the OSB, foil backed foamboard and 2x4's. I hope to have everything in place by the 2nd week of Sept. It should go up pretty quick, I'll have enough help getting the trusses and panels up.

Alvin and I are heading to KC and the reunion so what doesn't get done will have to wait until after that.

I see you have them ratchet strapped together. That PT lumber would warp like a pretzel if you hadn’t. Looking good!

I see you have them ratchet strapped together. That PT lumber would warp like a pretzel otherwise. LOOKING GOOD!

I rallied the Troops this weekend and finally set the trusses. After a few adjustments with rigging and placement the trusses went up great. I set 18 in place, I will need to come back and add purlins to secure everything.

It's easy to get large projects done if you have friends you can count on. I'll take them all for steak and shrimp once I have the roof completed. Meanwhile here are some pictures from today..

Craig,

That is BIG progress! Congrats!!!

You just happen to have a "friend" with a bucket truck to help out too. Awesome!

Looking forward to more progress reports.

Yeah he and his Dad own a local sign company. If I had to set them by hand it would take the rest of the month.

What size is your build.

Craig,

Sure hoping you are able to secure those with purlins soon! Seems you may have some not so friendly weather coming your direction.

Stay safe!!!

The shop will be 28 x 40 with two 10 x 10 doors.

Nice ,looks good

Dan, I've been running around battening down the hatches, both here and at work. I had some 2x4 bracing for now and have everything secured with hurricane straps.

Just watching the strom forecast, we are in for some wind and rain but nothing like the folks to our south. Say a prayer for those people.

Will do Craig!!!

I picked up the metal for my shop roof yesterday. With all the trim, ridge cap and screws it was $1764.86, I still need to purchase the OSB, foam board and 2"x4" to add the underlayment. If the weather holds out I may have a roof by the first of Nov.

Craig,

You going to "round up" the usual suspects (I mean helpers - lol) to get the roof on???

Looking forward to more pics!!!

Sounds great, just in time before winter. So, what's the plan OSB, foam, 2x4's and then metal? Just curious as I've never installed a metal roof on a typical trussed type of roof. My shop has purlins that run horizontally which the metal is fastened to.

John

Well today is the day, we start sheeting the roof this morning. I'll try and get pictures of the progress as we go . Wish me luck.

PS: Roof on a trailer, some assembly required. $1452.00

Pics would be great.

John

We finished up the front half of the roof. The foil backed insulated board should really help with the summer heat and humidity. The steel roofing went pretty quick.

Looking good. Second half should go quicker.

John

Well I made some serious progress over the weekend. We closed in the back portion of the roof and added the ridge cap. I will sheet in the sides in the coming weeks, I still haven't decided on the type of siding to use. I'm not really a fan of Hardy board and hate vinyl, rough cut is to costly. I will figure it out.

In the meantime I'm working on the layout for my power. After some head scratching and a few words of confidence from Alvin I decided to add a quad box every 4 ft along the wall with there the workbenches will be. I will dedicate one for 220v for the welder and the rest for equipment. The panel I have has enough spaces to allow me to separate heavier Amp loads and still run quad boxes. As a temporary I have added a couple of LED light and just wired them into the shed power, lights are a great help these days.

I'm ready to start using some of the tools and equipment I have and not need to pack everything back into my shed at the end of the day.

Looks awesome.

John