The Stovebolt.com Forums Home | Tech Tips | Gallery | FAQ | Events | Features | Search
Fixing the old truck

BUSY BOLTERS
Are you one?

Where is it?? The Shop Area

continues to pull in the most views on the Stovebolt. In August alone there were over 22,000 views in those 13 forums.

Searching the Site - a click away
click here to search
New here ??? Where to start?
Click on image for the lowdown. Where do I go around here?
====
Who's Online Now
5 members (jmoore, Possum, MickeyP, Jon G, 32vsnake), 585 guests, and 2 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics126,777
Posts1,039,272
Members48,100
Most Online2,175
Jul 21st, 2025
Step-by-step instructions for pictures in the forums
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
G
'Bolter
'Bolter
G Offline
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
Have finally finished all the wire harness installation. Everything works great. Now I am going to work on fog light hook up.
Previous owner had wire from the bat terminal on voltage regulator go to fuse then to #30 post on relay.
Next wire from relay was on post #86 to the switch in cab.
The 2 fog light wires go to the 2 # 87 posts on relay.
The wire that comes from #85 post on relay is the one I don't understand. Appears to have been connected to the terminal block on fender and had another wire spliced to it to go to the other side terminal block. Would it have been connected to the high beam lights on terminal blocks? And is it ok to have this hooked up to the battery terminal on the voltage regulator? Thanks for any information. Grady.


1949 3100
Old Blue
In the Gallery Forum
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
The relay has two separate circuits. 30 is the input feed for the load, 87 is the output to the load. Then there's 85 and 86 to the coil in the relay to pull it in to connect 30 and 87. One pin (85 or 86) needs a powered circuit and the other a ground. You can put the switch on the ground side or the power side.
Here's a diagram of standard 5 pin relays.
Attachments
5 pin relay.png (2.78 KB, 87 downloads)


Kevin
1951 Chevy 3100 work truck
Follow this saga in Project Journal
Photos
1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car)
Busting rust since the mid-60's
If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
G
'Bolter
'Bolter
G Offline
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
If the 2 fog light wires were connected to 87 and 87A, wouldn't only one light work when the switch was turned on?


1949 3100
Old Blue
In the Gallery Forum
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
Yes, both fog light wires need to go on 87. That goes hot when you put power across 30 and 86. If one was on 87A, it would be on when the switch was turned off.
On factory fog light installations, fog lights won't work with the high beams on. So you could supply power to the relay coil from the low beam terminal on the dimmer switch. If you switch to high beams, the fog lights would turn off. I have fog lights on my F250 and did not wire them that way, so I can have fog lights on with high or low beams.


Kevin
1951 Chevy 3100 work truck
Follow this saga in Project Journal
Photos
1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car)
Busting rust since the mid-60's
If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
G
'Bolter
'Bolter
G Offline
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
I have been studying and looking at the relay. It shows on the side of relay that when power is across 30 and 86 they both turn on? The 86 wire goes to a switch in cab and other side of switch is grounded. So when I turn on switch it actually completes the circuit buy grounding. Is that correct? And is it OK to have the #30 wire connected to the battery terminal on the voltage regulator? Thanks, Grady.


1949 3100
Old Blue
In the Gallery Forum
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
G
'Bolter
'Bolter
G Offline
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
I should have said it turns on both 87 wires. It's been a long day.


1949 3100
Old Blue
In the Gallery Forum
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
I would guess it's OK to have #30 connected to the voltage regulator battery terminal, but you might want to power them an accessory contact on the ignition switch. If you have it hooked to an unswitched terminal, leaving the fog light switch on would kill the battery eventually if the engine isn't running.
If there are two 87 terminals, those would be energized when the relay is pulled in with your switch. I've never seen a relay with two 87 terminals, but I suppose they exist.


Kevin
1951 Chevy 3100 work truck
Follow this saga in Project Journal
Photos
1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car)
Busting rust since the mid-60's
If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,986
B
'Bolter
'Bolter
B Offline
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,986
You really need a fuse or a self-resetting circuit breaker as near the power source as possible. For instance, if you decide to get power from the power from the battery terminal of the regulator you should connect the fuse or breaker there, then feed the other side towards relay pin 30.

Last edited by Bill Hanlon; 04/10/2022 12:47 AM. Reason: spelling

'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12
'52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9,830
What Bill said. Always put a fuse at your power source.


Kevin
1951 Chevy 3100 work truck
Follow this saga in Project Journal
Photos
1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car)
Busting rust since the mid-60's
If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
G
'Bolter
'Bolter
G Offline
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
There is a fuse between the power source and the 30 terminal. A circuit breaker doesn't sound like a bad idea either. Will get it together tomorrow morning. Thank you all for the help. Grady


1949 3100
Old Blue
In the Gallery Forum
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
G
'Bolter
'Bolter
G Offline
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 181
Thank you all for the help. They are wired and work as they should. Low beams they're on, high beams they go off. Now for some nice weather so we can take her out. Thanks again, Grady.


1949 3100
Old Blue
In the Gallery Forum

Moderated by  Jon G, Rusty Rod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Home | FAQ | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0
(Release build 20240826)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 8.3.11 Page Time: 0.031s Queries: 15 (0.028s) Memory: 0.6411 MB (Peak: 0.7459 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2025-09-22 13:41:24 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS