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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,270 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 | Hi All Is there an open drive differential swap for a 47-53 1/2 ton AD? That is, is there any open-drive pumpkin that will bolt into the existing rear end using stock axles? thanks
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| | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 | Hy wurlitzer46, the 1/2 ton 1955 B or second series differential will swap into the torque tube housing. I believe the same differential was used up to 1962. Once you make your swap you will have to do something about keeping your new pinion in position as your torque tube housing will pivot on the rear springs allowing the pinion to fall down. You could have someone weld leaf spring mounts to your housing and you will have to obtain some "U" bolts and plates to bolt the housing to the springs. Don't forget the pinion angle needs to be set before the welding, hope that helps. | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 | Thanks, do you happen to know what gear ratio those trucks usually have? And can you just weld the old pivots to not pivot? This would seem the simplest solution, but not many do it, so maybe there is a reason? the usual choices are either a complete rear end swap or the Patricks pinion and ring in the stock torque tube (does anyone still sell those?)
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| | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 | The pivots have a rubber bushing in them, so welding would probably destroy that. And the pivot housing is cast, so may not weld that easily. If you can get an entire rear axle housing from a 55 second series, that would bolt to the springs and use the same wheels.
I believe Mother Trucker still has the 3.55 ring and pinion set for the AD's.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,955 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,955 | The rear ratio is 411 on the pickups with 390 for 1954 pickups and newer,I see in your signature you have a ice cream truck there is one on Facebook you should check out . | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 | Thanks, gents. 390 ratio might not be enough improvement to be worth swapping in a 55-62 pumpkin, unless there are some out there with a higher ratio? Or, since it would need spring mounts anyway is there a good 6 lug rear end the right width that would have a higher gear?
I could find a 54 torque tube cheap, but that means a torque tube, and still only a 390 ratio
Where is Mother Trucker, or someone who sells the ring and pinion kits nowadays?
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| | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 | Where is Mother Trucker, or someone who sells the ring and pinion kits nowadays? Contact Mother.Trucker on here by PM. He's around on occasion.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,830 | Yep, with the period in the username.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,878 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,878 | I first joined this group with Wally / MT as my user name. I had to switch it to my current one because of the confusion with Mother Trucker himself. 1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet 33 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 333 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 333 | Wurlitzer, You mentioned you're looking for a higher gear, but haven't said what transmission you'll run.
I did this swap in my 50 half ton: 4.11 torque tube and 3spd out, 3.90 Task Force truck open drive center section in, solid spring perches, and a T5 transmission behind my 216. It's a good combination. | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 127 | are you able to drive highways with a 3.90? I was figuring on a 235 with the Muncie sm420.
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| | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | So that is direct in high, that is what counts!
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'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires. '47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle. '54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed. '55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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