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#1418664 07/29/2021 7:17 PM
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Crusty Old Sarge
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I know this may be a bit of topic for the forum but we all have some place we do the work on our trucks. With my 2 post lift now becoming a reality I need to figure the layout for my shop space. Like many of you I don't have that much to work with and always need more, the budget is forever another factor. I'm working with a 28' x 28' foot print so I want to optimize the area I have.

I would like to see some of the layout that all of you are working with, nothing fancy just a basic drawing. With any luck I can use some of your ideas and make the most out of the room I have. Thanks.


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FWIW i recently visited a retired fella to pick up some rear fenders. He was working on a 41 Chevy truck in a 24x28 or 24x26 building he built. He had a center overhead I-Beam he used to hoist and lift with a chain fall. But my impression was - that was a very efficient home set up and one I would be proud to work in. Plenty of room to work on a vehicle; had upper cabinets, and a bench-. He had everything he needed within arms reach and room to walk around the vehicle and work. One third was loft - two thirds open ceiling - clear span no center post.


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You reminded me that I wanted to start a new thread a few days ago. Maybe folks will participate and post pictures of their shops. Maybe that will help you with your design quest. See the "Show us your shop! Where you work on your Stovebolt!!" topic.

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Check out Lugnutz (Jay's) shop...he did a build series here. He packs a lot into a 24x24 garage maximizing every available square inch! Worth a look...

Mike B smile

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1956 9200 Tractor w/Allison Automatic
1952 Willys M38 Army Jeep
1953 Willys M38A1 Fire Jeep
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Mike, I saw Lugnutz series he did, I told him I was going to steal his overhead shelf design. He has a lot going on in a small space.


~ Craig
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"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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Think of it as a "cell" like many companies use in manufacturing. Basically its to set up your shop to use the least amount of walking......to get to the tools you use the most often.

.....when putting stuff in my shop and making something like a "cell" I did end up moving some things around to make it more user friendly. I bet most of us have did these. The only thing "in concrete" to begin with should be the Lift.

FWIW.....I ended up moving my air compressor, my bead blasting cabinet and moved the wood working stuff about three times.
GO FOR IT CRAIG, you'll get it figured out.


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Originally Posted by Mike B
Check out Lugnutz (Jay's) shop...he did a build series here. He packs a lot into a 24x24 garage maximizing every available square inch! Worth a look...

Mike B smile

Any chance you have the link?

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~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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Originally Posted by NorCal52Suburban
Any chance you have the link?

If I remember correctly Lugnutz did a few posts on the different phases of the build. Maybe he will jump in with a link.

Mike B smile


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1956 Chevy 3100 Resto Rod
1956 8400 Wrecker w/Holmes 525
1956 9200 Tractor w/Allison Automatic
1952 Willys M38 Army Jeep
1953 Willys M38A1 Fire Jeep
1978 Jeep CJ-5 Navy Jeep
1984 Jeep CJ7
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TUTS 59 #1421907 08/25/2021 10:42 PM
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I just found out my two post lift will be delivered tomorrow dance


~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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You'll wonder why you waited So Long. Enjoy!

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TUTS 59 #1421937 08/26/2021 12:15 PM
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I need some pointers on spacing and positioning the lift. I am planning on putting the lift in the area for one bay that will be 28' X 14'. What I need to know is how far from the wall should it be placed. Ceiling height won't be an issue as I'm planning on 12 + feet.


~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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Originally Posted by TUTS 59
I just found out my two post lift will be delivered tomorrow dance
I am so jealous! My ceiling height is only 9’, so fitting in a lift would be challenging.

With a 14’ width, you may want to consider spacing it away from the wall enough so you could utilize the wall space for things like tool boxes, sand blast cabinets and parts cleaners with you enough room to maneuver between a vehicle on the lift.

Last edited by Phak1; 08/26/2021 1:32 PM.

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Not knowing how your garage door is positioned in that bay, but hopefully you left enough room to work on the wall side and have it so it's a straight drive in through the door to the lift.

Mike B smile


Mike Boteler

1956 Chevy 3100 Resto Rod
1956 8400 Wrecker w/Holmes 525
1956 9200 Tractor w/Allison Automatic
1952 Willys M38 Army Jeep
1953 Willys M38A1 Fire Jeep
1978 Jeep CJ-5 Navy Jeep
1984 Jeep CJ7
+++++
Hughesville, MD
TUTS 59 #1421981 08/26/2021 10:38 PM
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The shop will be 28' X 28', the bay with the lift will have a 10'wide roll up door. I have looked at a lot of shop layouts and measured all of my stationary equipment (tool boxes, work benches...) so I have a pretty good idea of where I want everything.

I'm just not sure how far to space it from the side wall, I'm going to try and leave enough room in front of the lift for work to be done.

PS.. Just added a quick drawing, please let me know what you think.
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Last edited by TUTS 59; 08/27/2021 1:54 PM.

~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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The center of the door would be the center of the lift so it's a straight shot to drive in. Hopefully that will leave you at least 24" from the wall to the post so you can walk around it if a car/truck is parked in that bay.

Having the cabinet at the left of the lift right at the LF tire location will always be in the way.

My house garage is 28x28 and I wish I had made it longer, my 2017 Ram 2500 fills the one side with the doors touching the side wall if I'm not careful.

If you have the space, build it bigger than you think you need, in the end you'll be happy you did...there is no such thing as a shop that's to big...

Mike B smile


Mike Boteler

1956 Chevy 3100 Resto Rod
1956 8400 Wrecker w/Holmes 525
1956 9200 Tractor w/Allison Automatic
1952 Willys M38 Army Jeep
1953 Willys M38A1 Fire Jeep
1978 Jeep CJ-5 Navy Jeep
1984 Jeep CJ7
+++++
Hughesville, MD
TUTS 59 #1422520 08/31/2021 10:56 PM
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We'll better late than never, the lift is here so now for the fun part.
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~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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I know that the metal buildings can be really flexible as to where the doors and windows are placed. Since it’s not built yet, consider moving the 10’ garage door closer toward the center so you can utilize the wall space.

Last edited by Phak1; 09/01/2021 12:31 PM.

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TUTS 59 #1422575 09/01/2021 1:59 PM
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Phil, I hadn't considered that. I'm probably going to stick build the shop as it suits my needs a lot better. I plan on running 2 rows of blocks around the parameter that should help with the needed height and allow me to hose it out once in awhile.

The issue with placing the lift has to do with where the expansion joint are, I need to do some more measuring.


~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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Two rows of block and just a touch of slope towards the big doors. Helps all that water get out.

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Mark is dead on about a little slope in the floor. Some may say they are afraid of stuff rolling but depends on the slope!
ANY slope is better than none. I know better but like an idiot I poured mine level.

....and be dang sure the floor around the area of the corners of the door are smooth are you will have water come in under them.


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1950 Chevy Coupe
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Notching the concrete when you pour it for the door sill and apron (about 1" lower than the shop floor) will also keep rain water out.

Mike B smile


Mike Boteler

1956 Chevy 3100 Resto Rod
1956 8400 Wrecker w/Holmes 525
1956 9200 Tractor w/Allison Automatic
1952 Willys M38 Army Jeep
1953 Willys M38A1 Fire Jeep
1978 Jeep CJ-5 Navy Jeep
1984 Jeep CJ7
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Hughesville, MD
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I like it smooth for rolling things in and out. Whether vehicle or floor jack. A good door seal will usually take care of the rain.

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Well gentlemen unfortunately I had the slab poured some years ago and it's level, no slope at all. In hind sight yes I should have had a least an 1inch slope added overall. I have a group of guys (former Troops of mine) coming today to help with the setup of the lift, if all goes as planned I should have a fully functioning lift by the end of the weekend. I'll post some pics later on. Thank you for all the help, we should have a link on the site just for shop related issues.

Last edited by TUTS 59; 09/03/2021 11:53 AM.

~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane
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We got the lift mounted, a slight change in plans though. I moved the lift to center in the shop, placing it to one side or the other just left no room. I will need to rethink the roll door as it will be centered now. I lt will limit how may projects I can take on at one time but that may be a good thing.
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~ Craig
1958 Viking 4400
"The Book of Thor"
Read the story in the DITY
1960 Chevrolet C10
"A Family Heirloom"
Follow the story in the DITY Gallery
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

Come Bleed or Blister, something has got to give!!! | Living life in the SLOW lane

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