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This belt/pulley for the power steering does not line up with the
other causing the 5 rib to move out of groove slightly once ran.
Can that arm be shimmed or something where it lines up better?

Looks to be crooked.

There is play in the bearing for the pump. Large nut there. Thats where it looks
out of round almost

They both have to be perfectly aligned and square, start there.

Ed

That bracket is dependent on the water pump being of a specific dimension. Since a water pump is basically a crude casting, you can't count on it to be true.
I would loosen the bolts which hold the bracket to water pump and figure out how thick of a shim (washer) needs to go between there, or whether it is necessary to grind some metal off of the bracket where it meets the water pump.

The belt that was used originally after rebuild was already at the end of
adjustment. The proper length belt brought the the pump more true ..being closer now.

Still not on the same plane as crank pulley, unless this is the same photo as before.

Guitplayer Shimming,grinding,cutting and fitting is the name of this game right ??

The pump and/or the bracket it's mounted on is out of alignment. The belt won't run true until that problem is corrected.
Jerry

This belt fit better with half way adjustment. 3rd one now.
I agree ,its out of line. Bringing the pump closer helped some.
Looks truer to me......
thanks for all the help!!

I am pretty tolerant of mods in hotrods, restomods, and straight up restorations, but one of my pet peeves are misaligned belts/pulleys.
It screams to me that the builder has not yet reached the pinnacle of what I consider to be 'The Man'.
I don't care if everything else is amazing. It just bugs me to the point that I cannot enjoy everything else the guy has accomplished with the build.
I know that this is coming off as tough love, but just fix it and we can hug later.

Still looks out of whack to me. Maybe a shim between the bracket and the PS pump? Until you get them on the same plane, you'll continue to have belt issues.

If the PS pulley is too far forward (which it looks to be), you may need to machine some metal off the bracket where it mounts to the block.

Laser tool works nice.

Thats what I am wondering. Reputable engine company, (Advanced Engine Concepts Green Lake Wi)but issue after issue that I have had to fix. Thermostat housing leak,
water pump failure 3x`s. Oil filer tube leaked . Engine smokes and burns a quart every 60 miles. Bad gas mileage . Leaks
oil from underneath (bell housing or somewhere low). Too short of a bolt to hold the alt to bracket. Allen screws that hold bracket on
snapped inside. I don`t really understand . They are supposed to be good. I am taking it to a GM dealer
who works on older cars. They had a 34 in recently. Maybe they can shed some light.
I just want to be able to move past the engine on this restoration but am having to come back to it .
I have communicated with them about this but I cannot make them work.

Use straight edge or a steel ruler on the front of the crank pulley (balancing damper) and measure from the straight edge to the belt (at the engine pulley) and again at the belt on the power steering pulley. That will give you a good idea of how far off you really are.

Also make sure the bolt that the power steering pump pivots on is the proper diameter and fits the bracket hole snug. It appears in your picture that the pump is being cocked when you tighten the belt indicating the pivot has slop.

Is the shaft bent? Did they install the pulley with the proper tool? If not, they could have bent things.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger out there. This seems to be an ever increasing problem. Strait edge with level or as said a laser pointer and small plumb bob. I'm working on one right now. Patience and more, correct size shims and washer's and you will get it. Doc

Right now , i`m concerned if I should have them try and fix it ..again.
Where I live , there are not alot of options out there. Most will not work
on the older stuff. The money is in the quick new stuff.

"Caveat Emptor"- - - - -somebody with an inferior product and a slick sales pitch has managed to transfer a big chunk of your hard-earned money from your pocket to theirs. Is it realistic to believe they're actually going to do anything to resolve the problem? "Fool me once- - - - -etc.!"
Jerry

Just looking at the pictures again, is there supposed to be a mount on the rear of the power steering pump. I was thinking it needs a bracket of some sort on the back to hold the pump in alignment. The bracket I used mounts lower but does have mounting point on the rear of the pump.


https://www.brotherstrucks.com/1955...CKET-KIT-FACTORY-V8/productinfo/PSPB559/

As threads often evolve and progress, more information comes out, enabling a better view of the big picture.
What stands out to me at present time is that the OP is getting frustrated with a couple of things.
1) He can't find anyone in his neck of the woods who is willing/able to set this pump up correctly.
2) He doesn't have supreme confidence in his ability to correct the issue.

So how can we help him with these 2 items?
If I wasn't 1400 miles away, I'd stop by and show him how to fix this.
Lacking that, all I can do is try to encourage him to dig in and try to do it himself. If he makes it worse, he can reverse course and make it right.
No one is born with all of the knowledge required to fix a sandwich. We all figure it out over time. A guy just needs to be willing to get some mayonnaise and mustard on you.

Just doing a quick search of our member list I found well over 100 names from Wisconsin. Surely someone from that list could give this member a couple of hours of your time. It’s time for the Stovebolt Nation to come together and lend a helping hand outside the confines of the computer.

Definitely! I'd be happy to lend a hand, but south Tennessee is a bit out of "around the corner" territory. When we were setting up racing engines with non-standard belts and accessories, the trick was to leave all the bolts slightly loose and try to nudge things into alignment before doing a final tightening. If that didn't work, some careful grinding and/or shimming was in order. A straight edge and lots of patience is key to making the belts stay put and not wear out prematurely. Good luck!
Jerry

You guys are so nice to offer. It is frustrating to try and do this without help.

This is where Stovebolt shows it's worth, there are always folks willing to help. Question, who is the P/S pump bracket from? A little more info would maybe help.

I would not know where its from. The engine company put it on.If any one is around my area of Green lake Wi wants to help, I am
open to that and would be grateful.