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| | Forums66 Topics126,776 Posts1,039,259 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | 4WD or AWD. I am trying to decide what to get to replace my current daily driver. It is a front-wheel drive. But there is some option out there that offer either or. This vehicle will be an on-road-only vehicle. I am planning on using my 1954 until colder weather.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Oct 2018 Posts: 51 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2018 Posts: 51 | This really depends on how often you need to use the 4WD. I have owned both, and you get better gas mileage when you can manually disconnect the front, it usually amounts to about 1-2 MPG. It is an inconvenience to have to get out and lock them in, but if you only need 4WD occasionally that probably won't be an issue, but it will be an inconvenience. The other thing to consider is if you do need to use the 4WD for snow, having to get out and lock/unlock in the snow bites a big one, been there done that... It really gets down to how often you will use the 4WD and if it's an inconvenience to you or not. If you're using it in the snow, think about getting out to lock your front hubs in when it's snowing.  | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,955 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,955 | The older 4by 4s are get out to lock the hubs ,the newer ones have switches from inside .I think the basic they are are the easier to maintain.Now all wheel drive is different never had one so maybe someone can chime in on those. | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | In my 78 years, I have only gotten stuck in the snow once, and because I was trying to be courteous and pulled over too far to let someone go by and it was on a road that I knew would drift. I could have pulled out with a little shoveling but a guy did for me. It was a front-wheel drive Terrain.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Ron, Here's a good article: Edmunds article on AWD vs 4WDIt essentially boils down to your anticipated driving needs: If you want good traction going to get groceries in the snow -- AWD suffices. If you're going off road regularly -- 4WD BTW/FWIW ... I have both kinds of vehicles -- an AWD and a true 4WD. I'd never go off road with the AWD car ... except maybe into a hayfield or something  Its good to stay out of the ditch running for beer in a snow storm ...  You're not going to conquer your world in an AWD ... JM
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,878 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,878 | My buddy once said 4-wheel drive gets you 30 feet further than you should have gone. 1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet 33 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,115 Insomniac | Insomniac Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,115 | Just to mess you up even more, all AWD drives are not the same. e.g. Suburu's AWD system is different from Honda's.
I just replaced our Acura RDX with a Lexus RX. In Canada, both of these vehicles come standard with AWD so you don't get a choice here. In the USA, FWD is standard.
I refrained from commenting in this thread since it didn't seem limited to trucks but since it's still here...
Gord 🇨🇦 ---- 1954 1/2 ton 235 4 speed | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | Thanks, John, I think my choice will be to stick to FWD.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,828 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,828 | My buddy once said 4-wheel drive gets you 30 feet further than you should have gone. Yep, a good rule of thumb is to use 2WD to get in and 4WD to get out. Unless the AWD you get has a limited slip rear axle, what you really have if in serious stuck situations is 2WD at best with one wheel spinning on the rear and another spinning on the front. Even with limited slip, it's really just 3WD.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | Women drive AWD and men drive 4x4’s. What do you want your image to be?
Don 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,828 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 9,828 | Women drive AWD and men drive 4x4’s. What do you want your image to be?
Don LOL I only drive the wife's AWD SUV when I HAVE to.  My 4x4 has manual locking hubs and manual shift t-case. None of that sissy auto shift-on-the-fly stuff for me. {insert Tim Allen grunts here] 
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,115 Insomniac | Insomniac Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,115 | Time for this thread to be moved to the greasy spoon...
Gord 🇨🇦 ---- 1954 1/2 ton 235 4 speed | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | As I remember Kevin, you have the 7.3 with the six speed manual 4x4. That’s what I drive and bought it new in 2000. I
Gord, I’m surprised it was not moved yet?
Don
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1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 620 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 620 | I was a D.O.D. Police division and trainer. My rule of thumb that I always told the Probie's. " four wheel drive is designed to get you out." However use common sense if you are alone in a swampy area, four wheel can definitely get you in but is not always there to get you out in an emergency situation. Personally I prefer 4WD in the pastures, mud, etc. Ron in your situation you have made the correct decision based on your history. Ed
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Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | Have you checked out Subaru? They make an awesome AWD? We bought Vicki's Forester new in 2011. 165,000 miles and no issues. AWD's do wear the tires faster though. On a whim I ordered the turbo charged engine. Trust me it's a real sleeper. 120+ is easy to get to.
Don 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 247 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 247 | Three of my four pickups are 4 wheel drive as is my Trailblazer. My other pickup is a 2 wheel drive. The 4 wheel drives have worked well for me and I understand how they work. For that reason I don't have any desire to change and try something different. Jim | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | Don, I have always wanted a Suburu since I tried out a model 360 in 1969. But my advice to my son is never to buy a car that there is not a dealer nearby. The nearest is 40 miles. If it was a used one it is not as much an issue because parts are easily available. But to get a new one for major service would sideline me.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | Ron, there is only one Subaru dealership in mid Missouri and it is 45 miles from us. The distance has not been an issue because we have not had to take it in for any service.
Don 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Time for this thread to be moved to the greasy spoon... “Pre-'73 GM truck, of course” ? | | | | Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,451 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,451 | 2-ton My wife thought she cut a fat hog with a dull knife when her AWD got home in the snow,never slipped a tire !! | | |
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