194CID = 3.179 (3.2 L) 181CID = 2.966 (3.0 L) 207CID = 3.392 (3.4 L) 216CID = 3.540 (3.5 L)235CID =3.851 L 250CID =4.1 L 265CID =4.343 L 283CID =4.64 L 292CID =4.785 L 305CID =5.0 L 307CID =5.031 L 327CID =5.3585 L 350CID =5.735 L (383 CID) = 6.276 L 396CID =6.489 L 400CID =6.5548 L 402CID =6.5876 L 427CID =7.0 L 454CID =7.44 L
1 liter = 61 cubic inches 1 cubic inch = 16.4 CC's. Jerry
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Add a column for CCs and this is the best post ever.
Isn’t there a biblical volume measurement called “ephah” or something like that? Anyone ever tried to convert their engine into that?
Yes, I believe so, but like many biblical units of measure I only sort of understand it. Cubits is another one. I think my 235 equals 1352 cubits. Ah wait, I say wait just a doggone minute here. That was the number of guitar pickers in Nashville in 1967. And I know that because it is clearly explained right here:
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
You are correct sir, Jon. In 1968 however there were 1351 guitar pickers, Dad made me come home. But really all the parts clerks here in Kissimmee will only look up 3.8 liters. Only two guys at NAPA know what 235 means but, they are real parts people. Doc.
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I have been a proponent of the metric system my entire adult life, but, while I understand the work that went into this post, I do not understand the need.
I have yet to see a factory Chevrolet parts book that listed a 3.851 litre engine. And while I will confess to stopping at 1974, not a single one of the literally thousands of original and aftermarket references in my library refer to a Chevrolet 3.851 litre engine.
Two observances:
(1) You can pretty well guess the origin of any current parts for a 3.851 litre engine, and it is not "Made in U.S.A.". (2) If one calls The Carburetor Shop asking for a carburetor or a carburetor rebuilding kit for a Chevrolet 3.851 litre engine, I will guarantee we don't have any; although we have dozens of carburetors for a Chevrolet 235, and manufacture kits (in the USA) for every original Chevrolet 235 carburetor.
I get enough "revisionist history" from the politicians; I do not need it in my business.
Like I said, maybe a little grumpy this morning.
EDIT: and in a different lifetime (a skosh over 50 years ago, I lived in Japan, and actually thought metric), and still am able to do a mathematical conversion, if one were necessary!
Jon.
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You are correct sir, Jon. In 1968 however there were 1351 guitar pickers, Dad made me come home. But really all the parts clerks here in Kissimmee will only look up 3.8 liters. Only two guys at NAPA know what 235 means but, they are real parts people. Doc.
Our local Napa store has been in business (not necessarily as Napa) since 1909. They go out of their way to staff the counter with real parts guys that know their stuff. They even seem to be developing younger parts guys to take the torch from the old guys. Cool place, and I do my business there whenever possible.
However, they keep much shorter hours than the O’Reilly’s or Autozone and sometimes I have to go one of those places instead. Before I do, I do the 45 seconds of research it takes to have my part number ready before I walk in the door. They still ask me what vehicle and year I’m working on (which is largely irrelevant) but part numbers make for a much less frustrating trip.
Anyway, that really had nothing at all to do with this thread. Back to conversion rates.....
I didn’t realize until recently that some Buick engines were named for their torque number rather than displacement. A 310 wildcat is 300 cid but 310 lb/ft of torque!
JW - a Pontiac 350 engine is actually 354 CID. I have one in my GTO. A lot of American engines are listed as a number close, but not exact (or rounded) to their actual displacement.
Jon.
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On the topic of conversion, I have a free and simple to use conversion program on my computers. It makes math for old people like me really simple (read that as not necessary). https://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/
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And the Honda 300 motorcycle had a 305 cc engine and even though the Honda folks called it the 300, it became instantly known as the 305...and became a central figure in the book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance."
When learning watchmaking (1957) I was taught to think in metric measurements and the French ligne measurements. Metric is easy as pie. Ligne takes some work...1/12 of a pouce which is 1.066". And the pouce is 1/12 of a pied du roi (the French foot which at 1.066 American feet explains why the French wear slightly larger shoes and stumble occasionally).
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
The U.S. was a very early user of the metric system thanks to Alexander Hamilton. He realized how screwed up our measurement system was with a foot being the length of the kings foot, an inch the width of his thumb, and a yard the distance from his thumb on his outstretched arm to the tip of his nose. As secretary of treasury he mandated the dollar system for our money which is metric. Not even the Queen can decipher the pound-pence system but our system with a hundred pennies to a dollar anyone over 60 can figure change in their head. Now for an example of distance, if it 40 MILES to my house in town, how many INCHES is it? If it were 40 kilometers one can figure meters, centimeters, and millimeters just by moving the decimal point (like with our money where a dollar is 10 dimes or a hundred pennies). As pointed out by Jon, going retro with engine sizes is idiotic but many of the big box store sites list ONLY in liters. This rant is just started as next we move to RENAMING old standards; maybe to be PC? When I was in school what was cubic centimeters (CC's) is now milliliters, centigrade is now celsius, etc. I would love all new stuff being in metric and all old stuff left alone.
On the topic of conversion, I have a free and simple to use conversion program on my computers. It makes math for old people like me really simple (read that as not necessary). https://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/
I have that on my computer and use it fairly frequently.
A number of years back, we were required to do some design work for the US Govt in metric. But in reality it was faux metric (they called it "nominal" metric), because they don't make things like plywood in other than English units. Pipe sizes were all actually English, but just referred to in a nearby rounded off metric, dimensions. Even in Europe and other metric nations, Pipe manufacturers produce in English sizes (which are actually "nominal" as well). Same with the guys doing sheet metal work. If you ask a tin-knocker for a 200 x 200 mm duct, he's going to give you an 8 x 8 inch duct.
A few years later, the Govt went back to English units.
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Plus the Statue of Liberty, much of what people find interesting about Louisiana and they owned part of Texas for about 5 years. Sadly for only 5 years, but Jean LaFitte went crazy and all of that. Ah and I wonder mon ami...was it John's LaFoot they used to establish the pied measurement?
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
This one will convert almost anything to almost anything else
In a different lifetime, when computers still used programming languages I understood, I wrote several myself.
Jon
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And of course, if you do the metric conversion, then a 750 CFM Holley carb flows 21,237.635 litres/minute
Jon
Good carburetion is fuelish hot air The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! The Carburetor Shop
I was told that the quicker I learned to use the metric system the better, or my employment choices would be limited - because the world will change over almost immediately. That was 1959, haven't seen it yet.
Not specific to metric, but a frequent error in calculations of temperature (like blower discharge temperature change with intercooler) is where they simply divide the new ÷ old to get the change. It's always much, much smaller than that. All temperature changes reference absolute zero: Celsius -273° (Kelvin 0°), Fahrenheit -492° (Rankine 0°) A 100° F drop in temperature from 300° F to 200° F is not 33% lower, but from 760° R to 660° R, or 13% lower
I was told that the quicker I learned to use the metric system the better, or my employment choices would be limited - because the world will change over almost immediately. That was 1959, haven't seen it yet.
Funny - I was told the same thing! But I did learn to use it.
Jon.
Good carburetion is fuelish hot air The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! The Carburetor Shop
County and City government agencies, for a time, put out project plans with dual units to appease the metric and imperial folks. It didn't last. Back to imperial. Imperial is much better.
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And of course, if you do the metric conversion, then a 750 CFM Holley carb flows 21,237.635 litres/minute
Jon
Cubit feet per minute is a pretty sensible way to express carb flow. Can sort of wrap your head around what that “looks” like.
I’ve always thought it’s funny that baseball pitchers are measured in miles per hour. On the one hand, it’s a familiar measurement. But baseballs don’t travel for miles or hours and it kinda dilutes the difference between average and excellent. Feet per second would be more apt.
