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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 52 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 52 | I see the s-10 frame swap lowers the truck. I like the original height is it an advantage to lower or just preference | | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,437 Moderator - The Electrical Bay | | Moderator - The Electrical Bay Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,437 | Hello. The welcome forum is not very reactive to questions. This one would be better posted in the hotrod forum.
Another quality post. Real Trucks Rattle HELP! The Paranoids are after me!
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 52 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 52 | | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | My recommendation before deciding to go with an S-10 frame swap would be to drive an actual S-10 truck. They are by no means a Cadillac, or even a particularly decent riding truck.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 678 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 678 | The vast majority of the S10 conversion crowd (of which I was one) prefer the impractically low look. S10 conversions can be made stock height if that's your preference. Having built hotrod AD trucks with both S10 frames and stock frames, my words of wisdom are, "No frame will ever fit your truck as well as the one that came with it from the factory."
1951 Chevy Panel Truck
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 52 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 52 | I am torn between an original truck just like came off of the assembly line. Driving around like my grand father did or driving around in a truck that looks like my grand father drove and running down the highway with power steering, power brakes and smooth as an s10. With air. Leaning towards original....... Alberta power brakes | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 | Electric power steering and boosted brakes with discs up front can be adapted to an original truck with a lot less effort and expense than a frame swap. You can tinker with the spring leaf pack to get a little smoother ride than the "log wagon on a rutted pig track" feel of an original pickup, as long as you don't do "truck stuff" like hauling a load of firewood stacked cab-high. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,476 Moderator, Electrical Bay | | Moderator, Electrical Bay Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,476 | If you're leaning toward original, then I think you're on the right track. There is in my opinion no advantage to lowering the truck nor to trying to make the AD into an S10. I don't know where in south Arkansas you are, but aside from the interstate connecting Texarkana to Little Rock, you have mostly good roads. I'd listen to Jerry's advice and also what MiraclePieCo said. If you remove a couple of spring leaves, you will lower the truck just a bit, but not by a lot. If your springs are correct, they'll work well. If they're dirty, rusty, etc...they won't work quite as well but they can be improved. Here is another thing: your truck's steering and frame were designed by very smart people. Everything about those two items was given careful thought and the dynamics of the frame alone are quite interesting. Restored to like new condition, it all works well for what the vehicle is and there is a definite and enduring charm to it.
As for A/C, you bet. That is a really nice addition, and if you use a well-designed unit (like the ones made and sold by Old Air Products in Ft. Worth), you will have a fine system that could be removed if some future owner wanted the truck to be original again. Along with A/C, please consider a short shaft water pump, a very good electric fan (Spal are the best in my opinion) and an alternator.
There are other alterations you can make to the truck which no matter where you live will make the truck nicer, safer and more pleasant to drive. Hope you enjoy the forum. There is a wealth of helpfulness and good information around here.
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 | One obstacle to overcome where hydraulic power steering or A/C is concerned is figuring out how to drive those accessories with a single fan belt. Fortunately, it isn't difficult to modify a crankshaft hub/balancer from a 250 6 cylinder to run two belts. It requires a bit of custom machining, but nothing that any machinist worthy of the name can't accomplish in an hour or so. The extras belt opens up all sorts of options for some creative belt routing. For the more ambitious fabricator, it's also possible to run a serpentine belt system on a stovebolt engine. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,036 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,036 | IMHO frame rails are frame rails. Why wouldn't you want the ones that fit? If you want to stiffen it up box and brace it. It's not like the S-10 is a race frame. You can buy boxing and bracing kits precut for the AD. I also don't understand why so many people are down on leaf springs. That spring has no idea if it's straight or coiled. With todays modern springs you can get what ever rate you want. I'm running leaf springs, torque arm, panhard bar and sway bar on my 53 3100. I have electric power steering. You cut a few inches out of the column and stick it in. One power wire and adjustable gain. I was starting from scratch and it just made sense. I also have an electric A/C compressor with remote condenser. It's the size of a mason jar and waterproof. Stick it where ever you want and run your trigger wire. So simple even I can do it.
Last edited by mick53; 03/16/2021 11:42 PM.
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