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Hi, it's been awhile since I posted.

Have been overseas for the the last 4 plus years and now it is time to return to the states.

I have a disassembled '54 3800 in storage and am trying to figure out how to get it from point A (Hampton Roads, VA) to point B (Mobile, AL).

She's been kept up on blocks for these last few years so the tires should still be good. Driveshaft and transmission are currently removed.

Is this something I can do myself (uhaul, tow dolly or something of the like) or am I better off paying someone to deliver her?

Looking forward to getting back to America!

Thanks all!

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I've used u-haul car hauler trailers and their tow dollies. I would not recommend the tow dolly for that distance. I used one to haul a bare frame about 30 miles, but would never try it for that distance or with a complete truck. One-way U-haul charges might be more than just paying someone to haul it for you.


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If flat towed it would be best to pop out axles and plug tube ends as that way only the bearings are spinning and not the ring and pinion. I have had straight axle rigs be a bit difficult in sharp turns.


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Check our Hauling Board forum -- you might find that getting a professional to bring it to you will be well worth the cost (and probably not as costly as you think).


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Will do! Thank you for the replies!

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And because it is still a "project" and in pieces, maybe it will be considered a part of your PCS/HHG shipment ... ? wink

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That's a wonderful idea but I'm switching "companies" and they are already having a conniption on the relocation costs. Already lost a job with NASA because of the fear of relocation costs so I'm not pushing anything at this point.

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I used a broker company arrange delivery of my '51 3600 back in '13. Distance was just under 700 miles and cost was $500.00. Way it worked was you post your load on the brokers site and haulers submit bids to deliver. I got lucky and a small one man operation with a nice 20' car hauler and diesel pickup up used my truck as his backhaul to his home in Arkansas (about 25 miles from my house, got lucky) . Zero problems. He sent pictures of the loaded truck before he left and called a couple times to keep me in the loop on the way to my place.

I don't remember the name of the broker but it was similar to this.

You know if I were in your shoes and since you may well have to be onsite anyway to help load your truck I'd just rent/borrow a car hauler style trailer and move it myself. That said you'd need at least a 3/4 ton truck and a good trailer (5k axles with brakes). Or a bud that was up to a quick weekend trip.
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Good Luck, and WELCOME back!

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A U-haul two axle trailer would work if your tow vehicle is at least 3/4 ton. U-Ship might be the company Ron used. I have used them, no problems.

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When you say disassembled, what do you mean?

I towed a 54 3804 some 200+ miles with a 16 foot bobcat trailer and my F150. It was a little tongue heavy, but I had a set of tires, tools, come along, jacks, chains, air tank, etc... in the bed. A longer trailer would've let me roll the truck a little further back on the trailer and get some of the items out of the bed.

Your best bet may be a Uhaul box van and a flatbed trailer. You'll have to take a tape measure with you though, since the 3800 has a 137" wheel base. The Uhaul trailers are fairly short.

Another option is a company that hauls RV's and trailers. You may be able to catch one on a dead head.


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I towed my ‘52 3100 over 900 miles from South Carolina to upstate NY on a U-Haul trailer using my 2013 f-150 and it towed beautiful. My truck is equipped with the off road and tow package, and the 3.5 ecoboost so it was more that capable to tow the 6-7,000 lb load.


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By disassembled I mean transmission and driveshaft have been removed and the engine filled with oil. I placed the truck on jacks prior to leaving the states to hopefully save the tires. Gas tank was emptied, removed, rinsed with soapy water and then rerinsed with vodka (had extra remaining from the espresso cart we put in storage as well, another story).

Was about to swap out the sm420 with an nv4500 when the overseas job offer happened. Big life pivot but totally worth the experience for the family. I'm finding the transition overseas a whole lot easier than coming back though.

Thank you for all the advice!

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Well, let us know what you decide. And, Welcome back, to the Stovebolt and to the 'States.


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Thank you. It'll be a few months still. We fly back at the end of March and there's that small problem of finding a house first. I'll definitely post an update.

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I towed my 54 3100, 650 miles over mountains (Appalachian's), with a homemade tow bar attached to the bumper. It was made out of a bed frame, hey we were farmers in our early 20's. I remember a guy in a new Cadillac at a gas station on I-75. He asked how far we had to go? When we told him he shook his head and said and you think this jerry rigged thing will get you there? We both said mister we are farmers, danger is our business, we have already towed it 400 miles! He shook his head and said God protects fools and drunks, good luck. Doc.


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Another thing -- we have a couple of trailering/hauling articles in our Tech Tips section (see the menu bar at the very top of this page) -- They may provide you some additional insight.


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I used a tow bar with a light bar for the back of the truck.It was about a 600 mile trip in the winter we took two days and wheel that wore its holes allowing the rear wheel to go one way while we went the other it happened in front of a auto store with a tire shop so we were able to get fixed up quickly and lucky the tire did not hit anything .


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Originally Posted by KEVINSKI
I used a tow bar with a light bar for the back of the truck.It was about a 600 mile trip in the winter we took two days and wheel that wore its holes allowing the rear wheel to go one way while we went the other it happened in front of a auto store with a tire shop so we were able to get fixed up quickly and lucky the tire did not hit anything .
That's why I wouldn't try flat towing a vehicle. I think a 3800 would fit OK on a U-haul car trailer. Seems like my 3100 had plenty of room at the rear of the trailer.


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I agree with Kevin (klhansen). My 3100 had plenty of room so the 3800 should fit fine. I wouldn’t take a chance towing any old truck on its own wheels more than a few miles unless I knew its history. Chances you won’t get as lucky as Kevinski.


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Yes I was lucky but I did go that far prepared ,the place I purchased the truck from I had family close by and in between even if the truck was on a trailer stuff happens.
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New Ton Have had some experiance towing straight axle trucks,they sometimes want to get-up on the curb ! If you have a bigger tow vehicle and the towed front end is free to turn With a good quality tow-bar Ithink you could do it. Just have to hitch-up and see how it acts.

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An update:

One of my really good friends just rebuilt an old farm trailer in Virginia and needed to take it down to Florida. It was serendipitous and he offered to trailer my truck back down too.

Flew up to Virginia from Pensacola Thursday and had her loaded on the trailer that night.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/ao9pVMCnRMW8Y07AWd0O9g.LJCIKVAiHP29KSh2PE0opz

Left Friday (yes I know, we were crazy leaving on Memorial Day weekend and from Hampton Roads to boot) and 17 hours later the truck was down in Florida near her new home.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/_-pRY3fHTqSwfFvRz7piKQ.SZ3z2fBE7xgduQBLxWKGNy

We avoided most of the crazy traffic on the way down. It was nice catching up with an old friend.

Only semi-sacrilegious thing was the fact a Ford was towing a Chevy.... lol

More to follow on the restoration. Plan to begin in earnest in August.

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My experience has been that you usually need two Ford pickups to haul enough parts to keep one Chevy running. I'm not sure if that's a commentary on the reliability of the Chevy- - - - -or the cargo capacity of the Fords!
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Nothing like poking a hornets nest. LOL!


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When supposedly grown men are capable of getting passionate about rusty relics half a century old, it's not difficult to get the hornets buzzing!
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I have hauled many old 2 ton GM trucks with my old Power Stroke.

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New Ton Make you a tow bar and teach it to follow you !!

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I got my ‘52 1/2 ton (950 miles) to her new home in NY, behind a F150.


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Originally Posted by 2-Ton
I have hauled many old 2 ton GM trucks with my old Power Stroke.

Don


Hmmmmm .... Wasn't that engine (7.3) actually designed, developed and manufactured by International *for* Ford ... ???

Jus axin the questions needin' to be axed ...

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John, you had one and should know the answer.
Bet you wish you had one in the Quigley Ford!

Don
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