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#1386479 11/30/2020 12:32 AM
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I have acquired someone else's project , a '54 3100. I have lots of work to do , and I am in a steep learning curve.

This should be easy : Why did the good folks at Chevrolet choose to locate the battery underneath the cab floor?
In the case of my truck the battery box is in poor condition , and - given the fact that there is a lot of "non-originality" with this particular pick up anyway - I am considering moving the battery to the more protected engine area.

Answer to question appreciated ,

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If you want parts to replace the battery box, here are some parts.

Better prices at Rockauto.com and maybe lower shipping cost.

The battery was moved to the firewall in later years. Under the floor has been no problem for me.

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original location gives you short cables, doesn't take up space under the hood.


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Hello Waveski,

It's your truck, you can mount that battery wherever you like. But, it's almost always easier to keep it as it was originally designed, as the parts can be readily purchased and just bolted on. That said, if you have the know how, the tools and you'd rather have it under the hood, I say go for it.

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Lots of guys relocate their batteries to the engine compartment, including me. Advantages include easier accessibility (especially if you're going to have carpet and/or floor mats) for maintenance or jump-starting, room for a larger battery than the original box will allow, and it's up out of the road spray. Disadvantages include possible acid leakage into the engine compartment, and a more cluttered firewall.
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The battery box on my truck was previously relocated under the hood. When it came time to paint the firewall, I moved the battery back under the floor. For me, the box was in the way when accessing the rear of the engine.

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I kept mine under the floor and hooked up a simple marine switch under the hood for ON/OFF to the battery.


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I think an engine compartment w/o the battery has a cleaner look to me. Just my personal opinion.


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Originally Posted by Stove
The battery box on my truck was previously relocated under the hood. When it came time to paint the firewall, I moved the battery back under the floor. For me, the box was in the way when accessing the rear of the engine.

Same here. I moved it back to under the floor. Today's batteries don't need maintenance so it's OK under the floor. However, if it was on the firewall it would be easier to get to if you need/give a boost.


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I have an Optima Battery under the floor so little to no maintenance the first one was there for 13 years.


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Originally Posted by WE b OLD
I have an Optima Battery under the floor so little to no maintenance the first one was there for 13 years.

ditto

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I liked the under floor because I could hook up a battery charger, run the extension cord from underneath, and lock the charger in the cab of the truck to charge in the driveway overnight. Also, I tend to resist change and like the original design.

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I extended the rails and battery box floor and put two deep charge 6 volt batteries in. Everything runs off 6 volt except for starter and a/c. Here in Florida the battery stays cooler under the floor. Doc.


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In succeeding years Chevy moved the batteries from under the floor to the engine compartment. Ask yourself why...


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My guess would be to save money. Eliminating the need to create that reinforced access hole in the cab floor, and the battery box lid. It's much cheaper under the hood with just a simple tray, even though that's really not the best environment for a battery with all the heat.


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Probably not an issue for most folks but I want my truck to appear as original as possible. I converted to 12v and still run a generator and voltage regulator. With the battery under the floor no one can tell it is not still 6v.

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It is important to keep those battery cables as short as possible. Current is a funny thing. The proximity to the starter would be a major design consideration. Especially for a 6 volt system. I converted to 12 VDC and I too use a negative terminal disconnect thingie (one of those with a green knob). I use the battery hatch regularly to gain access under the floor which is no problem. As a rule, I disconnect every time I park her in the garage for safety.

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Mine is still under the floor. You will see 3 sets of holes where the rearward bracket has been/can be mounted. Each set of holes indicate either a stock or two larger batteries had been used. I'm using a larger battery and the middle set of holes. Very easy to make a battery hold-down with thin angled metal, too. The battery is cooler here (and Texas like Florida is a hot place now). The short cables are a big plus.


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Originally Posted by MiraclePieCo
In succeeding years Chevy moved the batteries from under the floor to the engine compartment. Ask yourself why...

Maybe putting the running board step inside the cab had something to do with it???

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Originally Posted by 51bowtie
I kept mine under the floor and hooked up a simple marine switch under the hood for ON/OFF to the battery.

Oooo that's a great Idea! I want to keep mine under the floor but plan on carpet etc... That would certainly make life easier.

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I also kept the battery under the truck and added a battery isolator switch. I installed mine on the passenger side seat riser. I disconnect the battery every time I park it. I also wanted it inside as I thought if I had an electrical fire more that likely I’d be in the cab and I could shut it off quickly. I installed it on the negative cable as I didn’t want 12v positive cable passing thru the floor creating a dead short if the grommet failed. If the grommet on the ground wire failed it would only complete the circuit. If the key is off it should have no consequences!
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Somewhere I saw a custom box that lowers down from under the truck so you don't have to disturb the carpet for service...should be easy to make. Just make sure you leave some slack in the cables...

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i agree

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Waveski Would fix the battery box,then put a lug under the hood for jumper cable use ! had my first one,a 53 3100 in 67 worked fine !!

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Waveski Replied to you before,but it disapears ?? Im sure itwill re-appear anyway would leave it below for service space reasons ,short cables IMHO.

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phak 1 Neat job Imay have to have one of those !!

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my '36 battery came hanging below the floor under the passenger floorboard area so i fabed up a box and lid and relocated it under the seat(it doesnt hang lower than the frame) I did the same when i put in the brake booster.
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I used a marine battery box and cut to fit the Optima battery that I have on the '36 GMC
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Originally Posted by Clyde Willie
my '36 battery came hanging below the floor under the passenger floorboard area so i fabed up a box and lid and relocated it under the seat(it doesnt hang lower than the frame) I did the same when i put in the brake booster.

Great idea! This way you don’t have to pull up the mat/carpet and it makes easy access to the relocated brake master cylinder! That’s thinking out if the box!


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