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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,780 Posts1,039,294 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | i kno 4 a fact that mustangs dont really hook. i kno a guy who spun threw 3 gears.now is a 500 cad motor pretty easy to run up on? an wat about price?
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| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I don't know about that. I've driven many Mustangs, 5.0s and GTs, plus I know several guys who race them. In the hands of a competent driver, they hook up just fine. The only one i know of that actually blew out a gear (the diff exploded) was a fella named Tommy Pedigrew who raced semi-pro for a local ford dealer. The only readon it blew the diff was that the engine (5.8 Cobra) was maiing more power than the stock diff could take. And yes, it did hook up.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | this was a 05 GT the only thing he broke was traction
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| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | He was probly just showing off.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | i dont kno . i never owned a mustang or drive or even riden in one but ive all ways heard they have a light back end so they didnt hook good but i really dont kno but ive always hated mustang an i dont kno why everbody thinks they were the 1st muscle car b/c they want GTO was
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 | Nobody ever said they were the first muscle car. they were the first "pony" car, as in Camaro, Firebird, Cougar, Javelin, Challenger and its Plymouth brother. | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Originally posted by 64CHEVYREBEL: ive all ways heard they have a light back end so they didnt hook good And your pickup will have the same problem, only worse, because more of the total weight of the vehicle is on the front instead of the rear. Other factors, such as tire size and suspension design have an impact too, but any one of those can limit acceleration if you can't get the tires to stick as a result. I don't get excited by Mustangs either, but physics has more to do with performance than brand logos. The front/rear weight distribution is going to favor the Mustang over the pickup unless you've loaded the bed up and then the added weight works against you.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 | I hate Mutstangs, but I have driven a couple that hooked with good tires and a decent suspension setup. The key to traction is weight transfer and chassis seperation. You want as much weight as possible to tranfer to the rear of the vehicle. You also want the suspension to try to plant the rear end.
Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into your brain...that is where crappy ideas come from.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | I used to hang with a bunch of guys who either raced their street cars or built drag cars. After one bench-racing session I realized my 500 cc motorcycle would out-accelerate most of their cars.
So I bought a bigger bike with a longer wheel base (reduced wheelies) and suddenly I was faster than all of them.
Find a post that Grigg participated in and read his signature line. I can't quote it, but I can tell you how I intrepret it: Decide how you'll know you achieved success and then make a plan to get those results.
If success is winning the stop light drags your best plan might be to start with something designed to go fast in the first place.
If success is having an old pickup that's faster than any Mustang or Corvette you encounter your plan is a whole lot more demanding and you'll need to get used to disappointment.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 946 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 946 | Do you guys remember the GMC Cyclone? It had a 6cylinder with twin turbos, all wheel drive and could outrun a Ferrari Testerossa in the 1/4 mile. Slap down $20,000 and you have a truck that can leave most Corvette owners in the dust. Whatever happened to those Cyclones anyway? Not that I would want to own one or anything, too ugly. | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | The Syclone was only made for about 2 years, they didn't sell very well. The only had 1 turbo, though. There was also a Blazer/Jimmy version called the Typhoon that was made in the last year of Syclone production and then 1 year after. I wouldn't mind having one, but I'd strip it of the body kit, then put on stock S10 parts. Can you say "Sleeper"? Something most folks don't realize ablout the whole Mustang was the first pony car thing, is that the Plymouth Barricuda actually came out first! And the GTO was hardly the first Muscle car, ever hear of the Z-11? Or how about the Black Widow? And let's not forget the 300C. All predated the GTO, and all had a racing pedigree to prove it.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | im not saying this truck was built cheap but. i found a 1965 chevy in an old truckin mag. short bed drag truck i think it was 1500hp idk wat motor but ran 6.77 1/4 mile. im runin a long bed an im gone put 2 NOS tanks a gas tank an bat behind the rear wheels an mickey tompson 33x21.5/15's on the back an i havend decided wat rear end 2 use im run a auto with something like 3500 stall an a manuel vavle body
was the black widow a 57 chevy? the GTO might not been the 1st facty high pofermance car but it was the 1st muscle car in the muscle car era rite?
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| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 77 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2006 Posts: 77 | Originally posted by LONGBOX55: Also, you will have to use a 400 flywheel/flexplate due to the external balance. Not if you have the rotating assembly balanced for an internal balance flexplate/flywheel and internal balance harmonic balancer. I use a pioneer SFI flexplate for 350 and the big 8 inch Chevy "Mall" harmonic damper. If you decide to use a 4340 crank, be very picky about the manufacturer your choose. I used a Cola crank and there was very little machining to bring the crank into balance. At the same time as my crank was being prepped, my machinist had to insert two chunks of mallory into a 4340 scat crank to acheive the correct balance. IMHO, for the price of the two chunks of mallory, that guy was better off spending the extra dough on a Cola or Crower crank.
Admin for Turbobuick.com 87 GN, and new toy: 1955 Chevy 3200 pickup, soon to have: 383, Cola crank, Childs/Albert 6 inch rods, Brownfield heads, 10:1 KB hypers, CompCam 284 Extreme Energy, Tilton Plate transmission realignment and built Turbo400.
| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I only meant that if using a stock 400 crank turned down to the 350 journal. But yeah, if you're going to spent the $$$ to have that done, might as well have it internally balanced, too. Or better yet, go with the aftermarket crank like you said. The Black Widow was a '57 Chevy, 290 Horse 283 Feullie, factory roll cage, truck brakes and rear axle. Built for 1 thing, stomping ford and Chrysler butt in Nascar. Only 6 were ever built. The Impala SS came out in '61, with a 348, the 409 came out a year later. Then there was the Z-11. 425 hp 427 cube W block, aluminum front end, HD tranny, rearend, brakes. Purpose built drag car. There was also the nascar variant, usinf the MK2 "Mystery Motor" that broke all of the speed record at Daytona in '63. A full year before the GTO came out. Even the Chevelle Super Sport came out before the GTO, available right from the start of '64, the GTO was a midyear model, and wasn't even supposed to be made because it broke the GM "no engine bigger than 327 cubes in an intermediate" rule. The reason the GTO gets the credit comes from an article in the march(?) '64 issue of Car&Driver, which was supposed to have a comparison of the Ferrari GTO and the Potiac GTO. Ferrari never showd up, and DeLorian and Wangers sent a pair of "ringer" cars to the tst session. Both had 421 engines from the big Pontiacs in them, along with non-spec trannies and rearends. One was setup for oure accelleration, very low gears (4.88) the other had a close ratio trans ad beefed up suspension for the road course testing. This gave the writers a false sence of what the cars could really do. Many buyers were disapointed when the regular producion cars didn't meet the hype. Of course, it was really meant just to get people in the showroom, maybe to by a regular Tempest,or a Catalina, not to sell GTOs.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | well i found me a 396 bbc on craigslist but i cant find the guys phone number or e-mail him
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| | | | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 191 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 191 | I am confused. All you have to do is click on the "sale-*********@craigslist.org" and it will send the guy an email. | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | i terid that an it said there was some error
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| | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 113 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 113 | I gots one of them 396 motors in my combine 2 but it gots more grunt then them theres 383s. Id wigel a stick at those mustangs if it weres in my 48.
Thanks | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | well i found somethin that would help my weght prob.run all fiberglass from the cab fowrd an a orginal bed for weight in the back. now i got a golf cart that want hook. but i dont kno if i want a BBC or SBC right now wat ever i can get will work im broke 14 years old a aint got no job jus fond out i aint old enough
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