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I've got a 51 GMC panel (just swapped in a better 270-straight 6, sounds great). Anyhow, discovered that the whole front end is worn out from kingpins to draglinks etc.... slowly picking up parts (suggestions welcome)
While it's apart, is there a 'bolt-on' front disc brake conversion, something like a GM pick-up from the 70's that would fit ? Any ideas and/or need-to-knows...
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Royzell | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 | Chevy Duty and CPP both make kits to do just that. The parts are from a 73 to 78 (I think) G-Body, like a Lemans or Malibu. I ran into a problem wthe the outer bearings - the spindle needs to be turned down so the bearings will fit and I haven't done it yet. I'll let you know how it goes..
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| | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | Jason, the spindle doesn't need to be turned. It can be sanded down enough for the bearings to fit. Royzell, go here and click on "Front Suspension". | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | I used a kit from ChevyDuty that was just bolt together.
It used 70's mid-size GM stuff, and on mine I used '73 Chevelle wagon parts and not just for the front disk, I also used the master cylinder and rear along with brakes, so I have a brake system engineered to work together.
No machine work required, but I did have to run some brake lines.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 | Cletis,
I tried using an emory cloth, but it didn't work. The old outer race has worn a small groove in the spindle on the driver's side, and the bearing won't slide past that. I don't even have the passenger side apart yet. The directions from Chevy Duty did say some spindles MAY need to be turned for the bearings to fit. The inner bearings and rotor fit fine, the outer- no way at all to get past the taper without some machining. I'm still trying to find a shop which will turn the spindles.
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| | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 | Hey, thanks for all the tips. I want to get on the road this summer, so the upgrades may wait till fall/winter. I'll be hanging on to this info and looking for donor parts. 'just saw a rusted out '80's Cutlass, and a parked forever 80's Bonneville (like a Caprice).
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Royzell | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 | Old Sub-
I found the Chevy Duty Kit today, and a nearly dead malibu sedan to be picked up cheap. How did you adapt the rear malibu brakes ? Did you use the whole rear end asembly or ???
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Royzell | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | I used the entire rear.
Mine came from a coil spring car, so it required cutting brackets off and welding pads on. I used it because it seemed to be exactly the right width.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 | Hi Old Sub, (and everyone else).
When you used the front brake malibu parts, how much did you use ? I am in the malibu disassembly and yard removal phase and want to 'get er done', but make sure I don't throw away anything I need.
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Royzell | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | I did this about five years ago so I don't know that I remember exactly what I used.
And while I used the Chevelle rear in its entirety, at the front I bought new rotors and calipers, and used the bearings that came with the rotor, and with the disk conversion kit.
You don't need the spindle, but if you are going to use the donor parts, I'd take everything off the spindle and keep it till I was done.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 67 |
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