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#1367824 07/05/2020 12:14 PM
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In adding an independent front suspension on my '50 3100, you are required to "arch" the frame a little to accommodate the rack. I don't own a plasma cutter. What or how have you others completed this without the use of a plasma cutter? I have some ideas, however, you fellow bolters may have better ones.

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Oxy. torch, sawsall, many small drilled holes, die grinder best.

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'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
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Use a hole saw if you want a smooth arc. Drill a 1/4" hole in a piece of round stock, clamp it to the frame flange where you want the cutout, and use an appropriate-sized hole saw to make the cut. Smooth it out with a die grinder. Reinforce the frame around the cutout with a piece of plate welded or bolted inside the C-channel.
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Hole saw. Jigsaw. Cutting disc in an angle grinder.


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Once the hole is cut, weld in a section of steel pipe to replace the piece of frame flange that gets cut away.
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Here is a pictorial of what Jerry is describing.
Boxing plate template with steel pipe contour and TAPERED transition end to prevent cracks:
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/yDTZ7rcZ/c-notch-frame-007.jpg[/img]

Template used to mark cut line on outside of frame:
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/7J75dBqb/c-notch-frame-006.jpg[/img]

Filler cut from HEAVY (1/4") wall pipe
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/vctBnxTR/c-notch-frame-004.jpg[/img]

Filler/brace welded in place (much grinding required here due to welder ineptitude)
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/XpjZQkTN/c-notch-frame-005.jpg[/img]

This C-notch is for rear axle clearance on a lowered truck but exact procedure is used on front.


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Man, I hate to be "that guy", but I find that weld on that pipe aesthetically unpleasant. Is it a strong weld? Maybe...
I just wanted to bring up the subject of the importance of good welds so that the inexperienced among us aim higher than a weld like that one.
I am certain that this was rectified before that truck was put back on the road.


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Yeah, the result of the customer that wanted to try his first welding experience with a wire feed machine. Was ground, V grooved, and then a pass made with the heat high and feed medium to smooth it all up. We are often asked to "touch up" welds but this Nova clip on a 50 Ford pickup frame still holds onto 1st place.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/87JC0Szs/IMG-4136.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/1fDCcgpz/IMG-4137.jpg[/img]

Some of our welds on an MII cross member---usually use tig instead of mig
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/GHpNr3Y3/raise-MII-XM-003.jpg[/img]

Ground tig welds on Model A frame (no Bondo)
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/v4KtJfwM/Mod-A-Frame-007.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/SJ3XqrRZ/Mod-A-Frame-008.jpg[/img]


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coilover...I'm still confused as to how you cut the notch out. I may have to contact Hotrod Lincoln...I didn't follow his suggestion. I agree a hole saw would give you the cleanest looking cut with minimal grinding to smooth out.

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Okay gotcha,
One can't cut HALF a hole with a hole saw so just tack a temporary plate to the bottom of the frame the same thickness as the frame. This will give the hole saw a complete 360* cutting surface. Once through the vertical part of the frame rail then the flanges can be cut with a hacksaw or cut off wheel. Easy peasy. With a really large hole saw one needs to slow the rpm way down to keep from burning the cutting teeth. The old nasty black sulfur based cutting oil is best for this.


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The easy way is to clamp a piece of angle iron to the frame flange and let the drill bit for the hole saw penetrate the angle iron wherever it gives the arc in the frame the correct size and position. Then use a piece of black water pipe (NOT GALVANIZED!) to replace the piece of frame flange you removed.
Jerry


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