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I started a restoration 25 years ago on a 1959 Apache 3100. I put it away for 20 years and now am making good progress. I took all the glass out and will be replacing one side window and one vent glass but reusing the rest. My issue is the metal channel with felt in it. I do not remember how it went in and foolishly took it all out. Has a different corrgated metal replacement been reproduced? What holds that piece in place? I have the assembly manual but do not seem to be able to see how it goes back in. Any input would be appreciated.


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There are reproductions available. Most vendors have them.
Here's a quick video I shot for you with my AD.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/L7wGTb0Elld8ZWq03

The originals on the AD also have little "tangs" that are tacked onto the channel and interlock with the door frame. However, the repros I got from classic parts did not have these, hence the glue.
After you have reached this stage, the trim piece bolts on and secures it further for you.

Last edited by Fox; 11/16/2017 5:10 AM.

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Thanks for the video it helps. I do remember the little tang at the bottom of channel. I need to go trial fit my door glass and see if I can jog the memory. So the corrugated metal pieces are not available or am I thinking of some other part? Oh yeah, nice one ton dually in your page!

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on the reproduction the corrugated metal is encased in rubber, but it isn't like the original. It is sort of like a strip of paper staples in rubber. To install the screws I had to find a gap in the staples that lined up with the screw hole in the door.


1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here
1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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What you are asking about is called "run channel" or "glass channel". Last time I bought some for 55-59 it was flexible corrugated steel, lined with cloth and felt. It lays in a built in door channel with a catch at the bottom. You "train" it around the radius and cut it to butt against the vent window division bar. Bond or screw it in if needed. It's a pretty rough thing to do correctly. Takes patients. You will have to be very careful not to cut it too short. Don't cut it until vent is in and most of the channel is captivated. Press hard into the radius corner, clamp it in the corner, then mark and cut with tin snips. Pull the felt back to cut metal, then trim felt after.

Everything for all of your windows and doors is available. Plenty of how-to's here and on line. Some folks bond it with black 3M weather strip adhesive while window is rolled up. I used tiny screws also. That's real fun.

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@Fox:
Thanks for the video.

It looks like I will be using glue instead of the tack fittings as I cannot figure out how they work. Might be able to use the little screws for something....
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Well, now that I am armed with correct name for the part I have located a kit and will proceed soon. Thanks for the replies and info, invaluable input from those who know.

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Go slow and be patient...it really is a dirty bugger getting the vents, windows, regulators, channel and everything else in on the first go. My 2nd door was sooooo much easier...


1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here
1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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I think I will practice with the old parts at least once in hopes of being able to install without damage. I agree it seems like patience will be necessary.


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I'll confess: I went out to the farm, got a door from my parts trucks and took a peek during reassembly too!


1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here
1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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Well I got side tracked on the window glass by painting the truck. With all this time available this week I put in new door glass run channels and division bar felt on both doors and a new window drivers side. For everyone who said it takes patience and time you were absolutely right. I am more than pleased though and the truck is starting to look right. Pics do not show new glass as pics are from couple months ago.
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