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I have a 91 chevy 3500 1 ton dually regular cab short bed frame and running gear
and bed
I have a 49 gmc 5 window cab and front fenders
How hard would it be or has anyone put a 49 csb and fenders on a 91 3500 dually frame
If some one has done it tell me how to do it please

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One of our members (coilover) has a shop that specializes in that very type project. He may well chime in. The common reply to your question is that if you have to ask, you don't have the ability to complete the project. HOWEVER, after looking at your website I see that's Not the case. Understanding how to use a tape measure, welder and the ability to fab usable parts from a pile scrap metal are key skill sets.

Best of Luck,

ps, Nice '61 Impala

RonR


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
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1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
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Thanks for checking out my stuff
ya I think it can be done its just going to be mesure twice cut once lol
thanks again me and the wife built the impala in 4 months 8 to 12 hr a bay 7 days a week for 4 months with my arm in a cast but I wone my division so it was worth it thanks again I well try to see if I can get a hold of coilover
thanks again my friend

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The biggest challenge will be front fender/wheel clearance. The AD front ends are very narrow


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Just saw a picture on Facebook of someone put that style of truck on a Chevy Trailblazer/GMC running gear, front wheels looked OK. I know that is not what you have, but others might.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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If you use the complete front end from a big bolt, fenders, grill, radiator support, etc, the fenders will be about the right width. You might have to do a little cosmetic surgery on the wheel openings, since they were intended to clear 20" rims with bigger tires than the chassis you're working with. Another approach would be to split the 1/2 ton fenders lengthwise and graft in a 2" wide extension on each side to widen the original front fenders.
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[img]https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/15623/filename/IMG_0780.JPG[/img]Some GMC '41-'47 .1 had wide front fenders and associated running boards that can accept a full width front axle, I have 2 sets. Sort of hard to find.

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'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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You nailed it when you said a tape measure is your friend. On "orphan" body/frame swaps we have found that after first getting BOTH old and new frames stripped and spaced to the desired ride height one can run a center line length wise down both frames to pull all measurements from. The constants are the front and rear axle center lines since you want to end up with the wheels/tires centered in the wheel openings. The first measurement will be for wheel base to see if or how much the frame will need to be shortened or lengthened. Once wb is correct then the location of each bracket, mount, etc is measured from the front-rear and center line of the OLD frame and then positioned at this very same location from the F-R and center line on the new frame. If precise tape measure exercises are used the body/bed/core support etc bolt holes will line up with no "wallowing out" required. Brackets will have to be fabricated, cross members added or removed, custom steering column drop made, and all the other joys of messing around with the General's perfectly good design but this pays us to keep the lights burning. Good luck!


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Here is a shot of a 1954 AD with truck front fenders on a 1.5T Dodge dually chassis with the turbo Cummins diesel. The cab and front clip are mounted well and it drives well. Guy knew how to use a tape measure.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/wy1Z9hJL/IMG-4403.jpg[/img]


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That link in the post above will take you to a website with dangerous non vetted advertisements that could cause some devices to experience security issues
It’s not directly the websites fault
But they are hosting really garbage content from not so trusting sources
I wouldn’t recommend clicking that link

Why not Just post neat photos here
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Interesting job on the 54/55, not sure if he was able to fit an I'cooler in there, though. I have a Dodge 4wd running gear for such a conversion.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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Ok I have a line on a 49 chevy big bolt truck complete

At first I wanted to put the big bolt cab and finders on a 91 Chevy 3500 dually truck.because that was all at the time I could get a hold of at the time


But if I cant get the paper work straitened out on the 91 it's no good to me.
I dont want to get it taken because of not having what is called a dual
Registration


so seeing the 49 is a complete truck not just a cab and fenders would it just be easyer to swap the running gear the only thin thing it well haul with it is my 5th wheel every now and then if I have to move

This what I'm thinking after measure every thin becsuse I have my 50 big bolt GMC and I have the 91 hear now I have the ability to do it but seems like it mite be a problem if I do all the fadercation and stuff only to find I cant get the paper work.

Be easyer if I used the frame on the 49 and cut and shortened it to fit the the 91 bed and put all the running gear out of the 91 on to the 49

Leave the stair axle in the front and make it a 49 dually gasser look I'll still have to channel the floor of the 91 bed to get it to line up with the cab
Now what would happen if I flipped the rear axel that's easyer done
But could I flip the front axle to lower it

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I could always channel the cab and the bed
see how low I could get it that was and save the suspension
So I have more travel
could a metal shop cut and drop the axel

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That shouldn't be that hard of a swap, either way you can make it work. I would prefer the newer chassis myself. I just finished this swap 2002 GMC Duramax 4x4 into a 48 COE pickup.
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Nice.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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Oh my...


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Awsome job did you use the 02 frame
if so how much did you train off each side in the middle
o ya it's a COE so you probably didnt have to deal with that
but it looks awsome


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