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#1337765 12/15/2019 10:54 PM
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Hello guys Tom here,
I have a 1955 270 motor and would like to mount a 12 volt alternator on it any thoughts on make or amps will be appreciated old dog

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A Delco with the internal regulator about 55 or 65 amps would work.
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Here's a great article I found helpful...
http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/delcoremy.shtml


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Thanks guys, thats lot a info old dog

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I have a 6V from this guy and it works fine. In general with all his recommendations for an alternator, does the old 216 wide belt pulley fit a modern alternator?


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If not, you can obtain a 5/8” pulley from Speedway. I used this one on my 10si 63 amp alternator.
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Nice! Thanks


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Have to correct myself. I got my 6V alternator form this guy. https://www.ebay.com/str/HowardEnt?_trksid=p2047675.l2563


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I bought an alternator conversion bracket which you will need from the Car and Truck Shop. The bracket slots where it bolts to the block were too small for 3/8” bolts. Having a lathe with an milling attachment made enlarging the slots easy for me, but I assume there are brackets you can buy that would fit without modifications. Once modified the bracket and associated tension bracket worked great.

Maybe other β€œBolters” could chime in as to their experiences with alternator brackets and where they bought them from.


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Take the wide pully off the generator and put on the alternator - 10si no problem - 12si you may need a spacer. And you can easily make an alternator bracket out of the old generator bracket if you are a fabricator/welder. I suggest using a 3 wire alternator - internal regulator - as you can kill the alternator connection to the battery with ignition switch off.


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Old dog............ just get a standard 10si internally regulated alternator. Pretty cheap. Mounting is a little fab work probably. It sure does get rid of a lot of electrical junk and wiring. I advise not to get a 1 wire type. We can help with wiring, no problem.


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Does anyone know what RPM the alternator is supposed to turn at idle? Is it the same as what a generator is supposed to turn?
Alternator pulleys have a significantly smaller diameter than what a generator pulley has.
Crankshaft pulley diameter has an impact on this situation as well.


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That's one of the big advantages of an alternator- - - -it can turn several times as fast as a generator without damage. The way the rotor is wound allows the alternator to turn 3-4 times engine speed, or more, which would throw the windings out of a generator armature. That's why an alternator can charge a battery at idle speed- - - -something even a 12V generator was hard-pressed to accomplish. A 6V system usually puts a slight drain on the battery unless the vehicle is driven several miles at highway speed every time the engine is started.
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I agree that an alternator can charge at idle but a 10si one wire does need excited which is usually about one time to 1000 rpm. So the choke on may get it excited but also may take a rev to excite. Also the one wire will draw about .003 amps even with key off. Not much draw but if stored and with no trickle --it will discharge.

A 3 wire uses the key to exite the diode -- so excited when turned on. Plus the key completely disconnects the diode from the battery.

One wires are for tractors but are cheap and will work on trucks.


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