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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 30 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 30 | Hey all...very cool group here. I have a bit of a tech question and I'm hoping you current owners can help me out. I've recently purchased a "restored to factory" 1949 GMC 3/4 ton. Every component in it is again, restored to factory spec but the previous owner doesn't know what was used during the restoration. That being said, fluid equivalents has left me scratching my head a bit despite being very mechanically inclined. For example..."heavy duty hydraulic brake fluid" as was called in the factory service manual is what now? DOT3, 4 or 5? I'd guess 3 but not sure. Also...shock absorber oil...what type and weight? Hypoid gear oil for differential...80w90, 90w140? And even transmission...dont think it would take a hypoid oil but...what weight? The factory service manual states nothing other than "hypoid oil, or hyd brake fluid, etc". In many of the others...it's a 20W engine oil to lube pivots, and 50W for engine which is no issue. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,875 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,875 | Good questions- - - - -and you're going to get a bunch of sometimes very different answers from the stovebolt crew. Opinions are like "noses"- - - -everybody's got one, and some of them are pretty smelly at times!
Brake fluid- - - -DOT 3 is good, DOT 4 is better. DOT 4 was developed to handle the higher temperatures encountered in disc brake applications, but either one will be OK for use in a stovebolt truck. RUN- - - -do not walk away from DOT 5- - - - -it's silicone based, and does not play well with other fluids, and possibly some of the rubber parts in a stovebolt brake system.
Gear lube- - - -straight 90 weight mineral oil for the transmission, Hypoid gear lube for the rear end. 90 weight in the rear end was the original specification, but multi-weight will work. Synthetic hypoid gear lube in a stovebolt transmission- - - -particularly the SM-420 4 speed, can cause gear grinding because it's too slippery to let the synchronizer blocker rings work properly.
Engine oil- - - -lots of opinions here, with everyone believing their prejudices are justified. I prefer using 15W-40 Diesel rated oil in everything I run from modern high-mileage vehicles to stovebolts, to my Harley and all the small engines on the farm. No oil-related engine failures in 40-something years of doing that. Don't try that on a brand new modern engine- - - -that's where the 5W-30 and 0W-30 oils are needed. Once even those engines get 100K + miles, a thicker oil is a good idea because of increased clearances from normal wear. 50 weight oil is for racing engines- - - - -it's foolish to run it in a street engine of any kind. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 30 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 30 | Thank you Jerry. Funny thing...go to a typical parts store...GL5 8w90 and 90w140 is all they have. Only had 6 quarts of sae30. And all DOT3 synthetic. So heres what I've come to and please see if you agree...
Brakes std DOT3 Diff GL4 80w90 Hypoid mineral Trans GL4 80w90 mineral Engine SAE 30 Shock Absorbers 10 or 15 weight shock/fork oil
All that's left is steering gear box. Your thoughts? | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,163 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,163 | The steering gear box take a NGLI 00 or semi-fluid grease. Contact Drdoug on here. He can fix you up.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,875 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,875 | If you've got a TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) store in your neighborhood, they have a better selection of fluids than the average "friendly local auto parts store"- - - -which you'll find abbreviated "FLAPS" on this forum. The lever-arm shocks will work with virtually any lightweight oil such as power steering fluid. NAPA also has a better selection of gear lubes than most FLAPS since they service commercial customers like trucking companies, but you'll need to find a counter man who is willing to do a little research. The 20-something mouth-breather computer jockey at the front counter of some parts stores thinks it's an imposition on his important text messaging time to actually look up something in a paper catalog or listen to an oddball request from the customer whose purchases are generating his paycheck! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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