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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,282 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 51 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 51 | Wired in a new aftermarket turn signal switch (such as United Pacific style from Summit Racing) and strange things are afoot.
The quick specs:
1951 chevy 3600 headlights were re-wired to to hi/lo relay circuits and work great. all the wiring is per original coming off the headlight switch for stop, tail, flasher, etc. I have checked and re-checked connections, wiring diagrams, and even changed fixtures thinking a faulty product. Original parking lights, new 12v headlights, new front and rear directional signals that are capable of stop/tail/directional functionsu.
With headlights OFF everything works except the right front blinker. (the bulb may have burnt out but I can't tell). ts brand new set so that would be strange. With headlights ON the RF blinker still does not work. The LR blinker works but does not stay illuminated during the unlit part of the blinking cycle as you would expect to show the running lights on when the headlights are on. The RR blinker works and in stays illuminated during the unlit part of the blink cycle. When it blinks with the headlight on it just blinks brighter like its supposed to. But the LR goes dark when its not blinking. With headlights ON and brake applies still no RF, and NOTHING - not even a blink on the LR.
Could it be the flasher?
Other ideas? I'm not sure how to test this? Thnks Rog
| | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,100 AD Addict & Tinkerer | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,100 | Make sure that the flasher is matched to the type of bulbs you are using. LED bulbs require a LED flasher and incandescent require a flasher made for incandescent bulbs.
I had the same problem only my lights were incandescent and the flasher was for LED.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Good reply from Phil.
I'll add, because it was not explicitly stated in the first post:
You need a different flasher for 6v or 12 systems and for incandescent bulbs (and/or mixed incandescent/LED bulbs, maybe). | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | Do you have a VOM meter to check your wiring?
Ed
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires. '47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle. '54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed. '55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 888 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 888 | Any recommendations for a 6V LED flasher?
Ed
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Check Chevs of the 40s.
I got one from them and I got one off eBay.
3-prong LED flasher. | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | I would disconnect wires from the turn signal switch and start over with each light, checking running light function. Make sure each one is on when parking lights are pulled on. Once that is good, run hot to the bright element in each bulb one at a time and make sure all the other lights stay on. If not, you probably have a bad ground somewhere. If that all checks out good, then re-visit the turn signal switch.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 189 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 189 | Bad grounds can do crazy stuff, like feedback to any path it can find even through a bulb. | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 888 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 888 | Still can't seem to find a part number for a 6V LED flasher. Lots of 12V, no 6V.
Ed
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | In case you are interested, I am almost certain that the flasher that you linked-to makes a "clicking noise". Many electronic flashers are silent. | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 888 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 888 | Thanks Phil and Tim. Guess I missed that site in my search! Ed
Ed
| | | | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,168 A teacher, but always an apprentice. | A teacher, but always an apprentice. Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,168 | I second the ground. My gmc did something similar. I simply ran a couple new ground wires from both turn signal housings to the frame. Problem solved. | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,100 AD Addict & Tinkerer | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,100 | I agree that the poor grounds will can cause strange behavior but I chased poor grounds for weeks before I found the LED flasher in my truck with all incandescent bulbs. The flasher is cheep and easy to change. It may not be the problem but you need to match LED flashers to LED bulbs and vice versa. Logically that is the place to start.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 586 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 586 | Did everything work fine before installing the turn signal switch? don | | | | Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 51 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 51 | Thanks for the input thus far. I have a new flasher on the way and will check the grounding. The old turn signal switch did work all for primary lights but the rears were directional only. I'll keep you posted. | | |
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