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#1326835 09/19/2019 8:17 PM
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I have been reading/researching the forum and net for two weeks. Past threads that give a source for buying 50Wt appear to be older and I haven't found any luck in locating the recommended 50wt Non-detergent oil for the original air filter. Amalie did have some but i had to buy a case. I have a 235 engine and live in Florida. All I can locate is 30Wt non detergent. Some posts state they have used it with success but since its only 98 degrees here, I am afraid 30wt may be too low. All the oil companies I call give too much tech info and are typically too young to even know of an oil bath. Some are telling me to use an ISO 220 or 320 grade anti wear hydraulic oil. My question is does anyone have a source for 50W non-detergent?

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Fancyt,

My 51 3100 is all back original, including the 216. I run 30W Detergent Oil in my oil bath, cause it's cheap and every parts house has it. Been on the road most all of this year, no problems. And yep, we have the same weather here, you have there.

My truck ain't a daily driver, but weather permitting, it gets run every weekend. I check the oil in it, from time to time, looked like brand new oil last weekend.


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Use any brand 50 W (detergent or non-detergent) oil in an oil bath air cleaner.

The oil catches the dust/dirt.
The oil weight allows the oil to migrate into the mesh/element, but supposedly not enough to get sucked into the carburetor.

no need to be synthetic
no need to have any additives

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Interesting, I have been using transmission fluid.

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What weight/grade transmission fluid?

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The cheapest 30 weight oil you can find will work just fine. The only purpose for having oil in the filter is to trap the dust and other heavy particles in the air as it makes a 180 degree turn as it passes through the air cleaner. Any oil will work, even hydraulic fluid, transmission fluid, or 90-weight gear lube. There doesn't need to be enough oil in the assembly for it to migrate into the packing of the upper section, although some people like to mist some kind of lightweight aerosol like WD-40 or something similar into the woven part of the filter.
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Thanks, but I'll stick with 50 weight as specified by GM.
Filled to the line on the oil-bath base.

It has worked fine for me for almost 40 years - I would not like to void my warranty.

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Tim, you must have that super duper extended warranty, LOL.

Towards the end of my old 216's service life I ran 15w40 in the engine so thats what I ran in the oil bath. I didn't have that super duper warranty so I didn't fear reprisals, LOL.

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Amalie makes a 50W non-detergent oil carried at a number of suppliers in FL. Check out http://www.amalie.com/store-locator. Lubriplate also - https://www.lubriplate.com/Where-To-Buy/?q=27.6648274,%20-81.51575350000002&p=1&t=florida&r=1. Thunder Motor Oil is in FL - http://www.thundermotoroil.com/non-detergent_en.html. Good luck

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Originally Posted by tclederman
What weight/grade transmission fluid?

Just regular red stuff that's used in newer automobiles.

My great uncle used to add transmission fluid to the gas tank, because he thought it cleaned the carb & engine. So it seemed to me that it would work in the oil bath. From now on maybe I'll add regular motor oil instead.

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My great uncle used to add transmission fluid to the gas tank, because he thought it cleaned the carb & engine. So it seemed to me that it would work in the oil bath. From now on maybe I'll add regular motor oil instead.

Probably would clean the valve train components nicely but dont do it with newer vehicles with a O2 sensor, it would kill it in no time.

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