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#1326580 09/17/2019 11:29 PM
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Hi.
While starring at the wiring of my truck, and contemplating on whether to attempt a complete wiring replacement job on my 48' 1/2 ton, I noticed something I didn't catch before.

I found a wire coming out of the block behind the generator. I traced it to go in front of my radiator. I put my hand into the grill and pulled out the other end, which was a plug.

Is this an original electric oil heater of sorts? This truck spent it's whole life in Minnesota, until I rescued her, and moved her to balmy Ohio.

Thanks Steve
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It's a block heater, warms the water and thermo- circulates.


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thanks 78


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My engine has one of those, but it's way rustier than yours frown . You can even read the wattage stamped on yours. They're very common up here in Alaska.


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thanks Kevin - Is it intended to be used over night when cold, prior to a day of use?


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A word of warning. I had one held in by a butterfly clamp (from the inside), the clamp rusted out and eventually failed....... the coolant does NOT stay in the engine very long!!!!


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Originally Posted by OhioSteve
thanks Kevin - Is it intended to be used over night when cold, prior to a day of use?
If you like spending money on electricity, plug it in overnight. I have a block heater in my Diesel, and I use a timer to turn it on about 3 hours before I want to go somewhere, but only when it's cold enough to make your nose hairs freeze (happens below about 0F). A few hours should do it for you. Gas engines are usually pretty easy to start when it's cold out - Diesels not so much.


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Do you guys think it came from the factory installed as an option? After cleaning it, it appears the word "Carter" is at the top of the washer. Curious if a guy later just removed a freeze plug at some point and installed...


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Looks like there are some NOS ones still out there. This ebay one similar to mine has a cool pic of the original literature.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CARTER-vin...k-heater-400-Watt-115-Volt-/321706353960




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They were most likely a dealer installed option. Diesels commonly come factory installed, but gas engines don't usually come with.
That NOS one is cool. A current manufacturer of essentially the same thing (but with grounded plugs) is Kats. [url=http://www.fivestarmanufacturing.com][/url]


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They are as common as dirt up here where it gets cold. Soft plug and lower rad hose heaters. When I lived way up north we even put 2 of them in. Take an ohmmeter and check continuity through the 2 prongs on the plug to see if it still works.


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My '48 is parked outside and I can put my frost plug heater on a timer. 4 hours even when it's 0 deg is enough for me. If it's -15 to -20 deg, I give it more time but not overnight. The heater is under the intake manifold, right where the heat is needed.

When it gets really cold, I'll put a magnetic heater on the oil pan overnight.

Missoula is in "tropical Montana" so -15 might happen only once a year.


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When I lived up way up north, some times we wired in a battery trickle charger along with the heater plug in.


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Wally/Montana/David C - I love your part of the country. I was up hunting a few years back in Dec just outside Phillipsburg. Very cold and windy...I could see the benefit of the heater for sure.


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Not only do I use a block heater in the winter I also have a small ceramic heater in the car that gets plugged in while I'm at work.....free power. Makes for faster warm up to get the heater working when it's -40ish.


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