I've been driving my '65 3/4 ton with the original 3-speed-with borg warner overdrive since I bought the truck in 2015. I've really enjoyed the uniqueness of the setup, but I miss the low gearing of the SM420, and I plan to swap transmissions very soon. I want to replace the front and rear seals on the SM420, but I've heard the rear takes extra care so as to not have bearings fall out or what not. Is it a straight forward thing to do? I searched on here about replacing the rear seal, and I saw some have done it, but I didn't find any info on actually changing it, just info on slingers and no-slingers on the front shaft. What is the procedure to replace the SM420 rear seal? Thanks.
Shane
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Rear seal is replaced by first removing the ujoint then transmission yoke, then simply remove the 8 bolts and remove the rear bearing cover, nothing will fall out unless you have removed the top loader (shift cover)and then tipped the rear of the transmission down then the rear mainshaft bearing and shaft could slide back and could drop the needle bearing out of the clutch gear. Tap out the seal of the cover and replace. Sometimes the yoke will be grooved from the seal, try and press and position the new seal so it is on a fresh ride on the yoke. It is good to lightly polish up the yoke with some fine emery paper and wd40 too.
Steve
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1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY Gallery Video of the 261 running
1964 GMC 1000 305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY Gallery Video of the 261 running
1964 GMC 1000 305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
Your pictures aren't showing Grigg. That seems to be the only problem with forums, go get a good how to do and the pictures disappear over time. Steve
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1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY Gallery Video of the 261 running
1964 GMC 1000 305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
Grigg's links/photos are on a Google Drive. Getting a shareable link is a Google Drive matter (not a Stovebolt problem). It is a little odd - first, the image/file must be stored in a shareable folder on Google Drive. Then, you have to obtain a shareable link, using the Good Drive app/Viewer.
The thread was started prior to Stovebolt images being enabled. By using our image hosting, the images will always be viewable in the thread itself, instead of having to go off site. It’s new and folks are still getting up to speed on it. Maybe Grigg has the images saved somewhere and can download them to this thread.
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Yes, the pictures in that thread are mostly not working.. I scanned the relevant post and didn't think they were necessary for this discussion, The link for the yoke holding tool is good. Pictures here https://goo.gl/photos/H26qPfBHb7eS15698
The SM 420 was discontinued in 67. If it is a 68-69 it will be a SM465. It is the same procedure for replaceing the rear seal. Like said previously, you do not have to remove the rear cover. To get to the front seal remove the front brg. retainer. Nothing will fall out but don't let the shaft & brg slide forward more then about 1/2 in. That will be a good time to check the front brg. Spray A little brake clean on the brg. to clean it & look in with a light as you slowly turn the shaft. If it has any pits on the balls or races it needs a new brg. It is common for this brg to go bad & it will cause whinning noises in the lower gears. George
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The SM 420 was discontinued in 67. If it is a 68-69 it will be a SM465. It is the same procedure for replaceing the rear seal. Like said previously, you do not have to remove the rear cover. To get to the front seal remove the front brg. retainer. Nothing will fall out but don't let the shaft & brg slide forward more then about 1/2 in. That will be a good time to check the front brg. Spray A little brake clean on the brg. to clean it & look in with a light as you slowly turn the shaft. If it has any pits on the balls or races it needs a new brg. It is common for this brg to go bad & it will cause whinning noises in the lower gears. George
It's an SM420, I verified that years ago. I'm thinking I'll install it after replacing the front seal and checking the bearing. That way I can lock it in gear and won't need to make a yoke holding tool for a one-time job. Last night I found the shifter and put in the trans, and shifted through all the gears with it on the stand under the eave of the house. It has been a long time since I shifted that thing, it brought back some memories, really looking forward to having it in the truck.
Shane
Shane's Toys... 2007 Forester XT Limited (2nd Owner) 1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner) 1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner) 1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)