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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | looking at the chamfer on the bolt holes, they almost look like stud piloted wheels. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | These are for a different truck not my old Chevy. I don't think they look to bad though.
Last edited by CAJUN CRAW FISH; 01/21/2017 4:27 AM.
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | They look a little strange, and large bolt holes. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | Yea these are supposed to be correct for my old ford. Sales man took a picture and emailed me. But they look more like the bolt pattern for my old Studebaker 2r16
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | $325 each to cut the centers out of the RH5 and weld them into a 22.5" rim. (tubeless) | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | Are those new production? Stud piloted, 5 on 8", look nice.
Ed
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | YES. American wheel specialist of Kennewick Washington
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| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | This 5 lug Budd stud centered is not a bolt pattern found on a GM truck.
I've had a couple sets of them original 22.5", out there if you search.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | These are being purchased for my 52 ford f6. However I think the next will be a 1950 Chevrolet 4400 | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 | Hy CAJUN CRAW FISH, I am no F@#d expert but I thought they used Budd wheels (stud pilot) as did Dodge. Chevrolet and some GMC used Kelsey wheels (hub pilot) or Motor wheels (hub pilot). The later fifties heavier Chevs and GMCs used Budd wheels. I believe Studebaker used Motor wheels. Wheels of different types with the same bolt pattern usually don't have the same center hole dimension, I believe to alert the installer that something is amiss. If the wheels have mounting holes that are much larger than the studs on which they mount and those holes are chamfered on each side then they are a stud piloted wheel, most likely Budd, hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 |
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | These, from american wheel are stud pilot and for my 52 ford. The pictures are an example of the hand holes sent from the sales representative at American Wheel Specialist. You are correct and thanks for the information. Had I not known you would have saved me some cash. As all way's this forum is full of kind folks looking out for the fellow enthusiast. Thanks and God bless you! | | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 667 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 667 | I do know that late model Chevy rims in 19.5" will fit the '42-46 1.5 ton (7.25) Chevy pattern but the center (pilot) hole is a quarter inch larger. I made adapters for mine and they bolt right up. Nice to be able to mount some modern tubeless even if they are an inch and a half or so smaller in diameter. I looked for the 22.5's that were on a few mid fifties for two years and finally gave up. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | with the Chevy I will pay the money to have the wheels centers put into tubeless rims. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | I have looked into this and the 20" wheel centers I measured were not a good fit in the 22.5" rims, I don't recall exactly what aspect was off but think it was the offset primarily and possibly diameter as well.
At the time I determined that to make/modify/assemble 22.5" wheels for these AD trucks you need the centers from the factory 22.5" wheels from 56-59. Or something different altogether, but not the original 20" wheel centers.
Grigg | | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | This 5 lug Budd stud centered is not a bolt pattern found on a GM truck.
I've had a couple sets of them original 22.5", out there if you search. Yep. I had a full set (6) of those ultra-rare 22.5" 5 lug wheels on a 1960 F500 I had a while back. I sold the whole truck for $750. What I shoulda done was scrapped the truck and sold the wheels for about $250 a piece. lol
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | A gentleman in Prescott, had some, probably 19.5", 10 on 7.25" centers, welded into modern 22.5" wheels, wider than original ones.
Look nice.
Ed
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 7 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 7 | Has anyone had American Wheel Specialist weld the centers from the original 20" split rims into 22.5 outers? Just wonder what they look like. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | I have looked into this and the 20" wheel centers I measured were not a good fit in the 22.5" rims, I don't recall exactly what aspect was off but think it was the offset primarily and possibly diameter as well.
At the time I determined that to make/modify/assemble 22.5" wheels for these AD trucks you need the centers from the factory 22.5" wheels from 56-59. Or something different altogether, but not the original 20" wheel centers.
Grigg Grigg you are correct in your post above. American Wheel Specialist will weld that difference into the wheel and warranty the wheel. $325.00 each. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | A gentleman in Prescott, had some, probably 19.5", 10 on 7.25" centers, welded into modern 22.5" wheels, wider than original ones.
Look nice.
Ed I hope to have good results when I receive my wheels. I communicated the dimensions multiple times and they responded with great confidence over at American Wheel Specialist. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 | Has anyone had American Wheel Specialist weld the centers from the original 20" split rims into 22.5 outers? Just wonder what they look like. I will try it on the next set for the Chevy. The Wheels I have ordered now are for my Ford and are one of the two types they keep on the shelf for vintage trucks. (Lock ring 20" with tubes) or (22.5" tubeless) | | | | | Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 46 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 46 | Any pics of the finished product? So they can also weld in to 20" split rings so it should look close to my WM wheels now, shipping must be frightening though. To through that trouble may as well go tubeless...
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1963 C30 flatbed
1961 Apache 30 (parts, no title)
1960 GMC Big Bolt
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