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I have a 1956 235 from a belair. Going in my 1950 pickup with original 4 speed. Reusing the bell housing from old 216 so motor mounts will work and starter
Questions
1- replaced the pilot bearing with a dorman 690-034. It just goes right in and spins around. I remember how hard it was to remove the old one. Should it be this loose?
2- how important is it to check the runout on bell hosing?
Was hoping it is not too big of a deal as I don’t understand the shop manual about how to do it
3- does bell housing get lock washers on the mounting bolts?
Thanks in advance.
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I guess I should have said pilot bushing
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There are two different pilot bushings. If the engine was originally equipped with a Powerglide there is a special diameter bushing that converts it for use with a standard transmission. Be sure the starter and the flywheel match- - - -the 56 would have been equipped with a 12 volt starter, and the 216 would have used a 6 volt unit. There is a gear tooth mismatch between 6 and 12 volt starters and flywheels, although the 6 volt starter works OK on 12 volts. Just be sure the starter and flywheel come from the same vintage vehicle. Runout isn't usually an issue except where the fit between a Hydramatic trans and an engine block not originally mated to a hydramatic is involved.
Jerry
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Jerry
I got the bushing that was for the conversion from power glide to standard. It seems to spin around when I install it. I’m thinking as long as it doesn’t move up and down I should be ok. What do others think.
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No more than what the bushings cost, I would get the other one and try it.🛠
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As evac34 posted:
Dorman 690-034
"Only Used For Automatic Transmission Conversion; Powerglide to Manual Transmission; 1.060 In. O.D."
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The bushing needs to be a tight fit in the crankshaft. You might try to install it with green Loctite to take up the slack, but don't put things together until you get a good fit that doesn't move.
Jerry
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Maybe I’ll try the other bushing see what happens
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Ok got the other bushing that was available. Nice and tight fit
The first had an OD of 1.06. New one OD 1.09
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By 56 I am pretty sure the cranks were all drilled the same. The crank in my 261 is from a 56 powerglide motor. Used a pioneer PB-656-HD bronze bushing. Autogear, the company that makes all of the muncie parts and transmissions, sells a real oilite bronze bushing as part number 0-127-006. That one is exceptional quality.
Mike
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