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I've posted in the past asking for help with my current tubular engine and trans crossmember. I know it sounds extremely lazy and half [censored] when i ask this, but is there a kit that will just bolt in for swapping a 327/th350 into a 1954 3600? I know it doesn't take too much to work with the tubular mounts, but i need to some progress done before i completely lose interest. I don't have much time right now to fiddle and screw with it, and i don't want to end up like my grandpa did where he bought thinking he'd restore it then it sat for 25 years. So my question is does there happen to be a quicker and easier bolt in kit for swapping?

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Here's a bolt in kit from Chev's of the 40's. https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detai..._Kit_BoltOn_For_194054_Chevy_Or_GMC.html

There are some other kits out there from companies like TransDapt too.

As far as your trans mount goes. It all depends on your engine height, angle, etc... There are more trans mount combinations out there than you can shake a stick at.

Anything you do is going to require some custom fabrication and some tape measure work. No easy answer.



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I was going to suggest chassis engineering, I’ve used their stuff. But, they went out of business decided to close the doors, starting clearancing inventory, and now have been purchased by Heidts. There’s no way of knowing how much of the original company Heidts is going to keep. Time will only tell.


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Those mounts pictured in Whitedog's post look to be made by Chassis Engineering. Or they are clones.


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The mount cushions from CE, Speedway, and others are for a flat head Ford. You can buy them from Speedway # 7209314 or from Mac's Auto parts # 78-6038-S. I like the Mac's better because they have the cupped washer to capture the bottom of the top cushion instead of just a flat washer. Speedway also sells the stands for your application but we just use a piece of 3/16 - 3x3 tubing angle cut to the needed length. It is easier to work with a boxed section of the frame for fitting purposes but DO NOT use a square cut boxing plate. Either taper both ends or cut a parabola (Nike "Swoosh") into both ends of the boxing plate---this is what the factory does to let the twist on the frame transition from the C-channel to the boxed section without starting cracks. We made templates for a number of the Chassis Engineering pieces to where we can plasma cut the out of plate and bend to shape in the regular or press break. Really miss CE because it cost less to buy from them than make our own.


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Chassis engineering parts etc. Will be available from the Co. that bought them. http://www.heidts.com/

They need a while to get things set up and legal.


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Great news about Heidt's buying Chassis Engineering. I hate when companies making some of the oddball stuff go under.


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Originally Posted by 1954_3600
I've posted in the past asking for help with my current tubular engine and trans crossmember. I know it sounds extremely lazy and half [censored] when i ask this, but is there a kit that will just bolt in for swapping a 327/th350 into a 1954 3600? I know it doesn't take too much to work with the tubular mounts, but i need to some progress done before i completely lose interest. I don't have much time right now to fiddle and screw with it, and i don't want to end up like my grandpa did where he bought thinking he'd restore it then it sat for 25 years. So my question is does there happen to be a quicker and easier bolt in kit for swapping?

Just to get back to the topic and answer your question:
If you mean easier than This or This, the answer is NO!, there is nothing easier or faster or cheaper. These bolt in as in, BOLT IN, (or welded) as we told you two months ago. So what's the problem?

In your previous post 11/18/17 we COMPLETELY answered the whole swap question you had. Are you putting us on? Joking now? Not sure. The fellas above may not know you have already purchased cross members.

I could be missing the point here BUT you say you know it does not take too much work with tubular cross members. sooooo... You want less work than not too much work? If you can't cut the tubes and drill some holes and mount the cross members you bought, you are not a person that should be doing a swap.

If you actually need help and are stuck on some problem, we are glad to help. What progress have you made in the two and a half months sense getting the 11/18/17 info?

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This is a bit misleading as the Ford type, in our experience, are easier, faster, cheaper, will fit ANYTHING, and always have the force vertically straight down. One can install two in the time it takes to do one tubular plus there is NOTHING in the way of the pan, steering, etc. Picture of the mount bracket on a Model A frame (upper left of picture), engine in Model A (mount under header tube),Shot of 400 sbc in a 64 MGB where no room for tube type, and a 34 Chevy coupe with bolt on frame brackets (wood block in place of Ford cushion).

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I used the first "This" in Bartomos' post when I modified my 39 Chevy. Super easy. I had the assembly welded AFTER I had everything set up an ready to go.


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