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#1245931 12/06/2017 3:56 AM
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I found myself a Canadian 1954 261 out of a grain truck. I would like to hear it run. It is not presently in a vehicle. Thought I would strap it down add a battery and a rad and let her have a go at running. Also gas to the fuel pump. Will I have any problems running the engine with the 12volt generator spinning but not having any out put wires to a regulator ? Does the generator need a regulator and gauges or lights so as to have an outlet for the power being produced by the generator ? Eventually it will replace my 216 in my 1950 gmc 1/2 ton if all goes as it should. Thanks

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The generator will simply act as an idler if no wires are connected to it. You'll need a well-charged battery, and some way to keep the engine cool such as a garden hose adapted to the water pump inlet. Actually, if you don't have a radiator connected, the generator and water pump don't need to run at all. The engine can be run for quite a while with a slow, steady flow of water running into the water pump inlet and out of the thermostat housing without the water pump turning. Be sure to remove the thermostat first, however.
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Can,
I test ran my 261 after a rebuild doing what you proposed. I installed the generator but did not hook it up to anything. It was simply used at this time as an idle pulley on the fan belt. I hooked up a battery to my coil and starter and hit the stomp starter. Vrooom. It won't run forever this way as it is drawing directly off the charged battery.

Here is mine running for the first time.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/J05p239EsYVutKOf2

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NbHUtK7wGTD7cw3o2

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1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
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1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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Jerry,
You're a fast typer! 😀


1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here
1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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I'm really not that fast- - - - -my wife says I'm sort of "Half-fast"- - - - -at least that sounds like what she's saying!
LOL!
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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
can216 #1245981 12/06/2017 4:15 PM
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Thanks for all the good advise guys. I plan on mounting a rad out front. I have the trans still attached. I'm missing the throttle return spring so will need to find something remotely doable. Any ideas ? Napa? Also the clutch lever is hanging out the side of the bellhousing and seems to want to rest mid way in the opening slot. Which way would be engaged forward ? Thanks

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With closer inspection. The clutch arm just flops forward and back in the bell housing slot. Inside the fork is as should be on the shaft but doesn't seem to have a bushing on the shaft to fit into. Is it possible it has been broken and lost. Thanks

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A couple of small bungee cords will fix both problems, one for the throttle return and another to secure the clutch fork and keep it from flopping around. Hold the outboard end of the fork forward to keep it away from the rotating parts. "This ain't rocket surgery!"- - - - -improvise!
Jerry


"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
can216 #1245987 12/06/2017 5:40 PM
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Ha ha rocket surgery. Now i have an image of brain surgery by a rocket scientist. Or maybe inside a rocket. All kiddin aside i sure appreciate all the help. Thanks shouldn't my fork sit inside a bushing and slide back and forth. This is just on the shaft thanks

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The fork is supposed to engage a slot on the throwout bearing, (which slides back and forth on the front bearing retainer) and a ball-shaped pivot that is bolted into the bell housing. The ball socket on the fork has a retainer spring that's supposed to snap over the ball, but they get broken or lost pretty regularly. Most of the resto-ripoff vendors have replacements for the retainer springs available.
Jerry


"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!

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