The Stovebolt.com Forums Home | Tech Tips | Gallery | FAQ | Events | Features | Search
9 - 11 Memorials

Searching the Site - a click away
click here to search
New here ??? Where to start?
Click on image for the lowdown. Where do I go around here?
====
Who's Online Now
8 members (Oldcaliforniakid, Otto Skorzeny, jmoore, frogfarmer, Hotrod Lincoln, 49nut, Stovebolt48, mason86), 114 guests, and 0 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics128,050
Posts1,055,671
Members48,426
Most Online14,466
Apr 26th, 2026
Step-by-step instructions for pictures in the forums
Brad Allen's photos

AD Chevy Trucks

Pictures galore
Over 6,000 pictures

Brad Allen has an awesome collection of Chevrolet factory pictures that he has set up from film strips.

Check them out!

Lots of work on Brad's part ... pure enjoyment (and references) for you!

Big Thanks!

THANKS!

For helping keep this great
old truck web site
on the Internet for

over 30 years!

and not clogged down
with Ads!


Again, thanks!

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1234008 09/09/2017 7:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 34
E
Wrench Fetcher
Wrench Fetcher
E Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 34
1941 Chevy 1/2 Ton Pickup

Facts:
The truck has been rewired with harnesses from Rhode Island Electric. There is a new gas tank as well as a new sending unit (tested). The guage reads in the reverse. That is, when float is raised the guage will move toward empty. If I ground the sender wire it will move toward full rather than empty as it should.

In desperation, I even reversed the wires on the guage. Nothing changed. Same situation.

I'm at a loss. Need help badly!

Thanks,
Ed


Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,321
H
'Bolter
'Bolter
H Offline
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,321
Ed.
See if these articles will help you.
Harold
Attachments
Fuel Gauge Testing 1.docx (16.57 KB, 46 downloads)
Fuel Gauge Testing (2).docx (15.95 KB, 19 downloads)
Fuel Gauge Testing (3).docx (15.14 KB, 19 downloads)


Harold
Is a restoration ever finished?
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 34
E
Wrench Fetcher
Wrench Fetcher
E Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 34
Thanks for the articles. I did perform the tests covered in the articles. Regardless of what methods I use, the needle will do exactly opposite of what should happen.

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,624
B
Shop Shark
Shop Shark
B Offline
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,624
In your first posting, you stated that you reversed the wires and got the same results. If you grounded the sender wire to the gauge, the needle should never move. If it did, you've got other problems.


Six volt guy living in a twelve volt world
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 135
L
Shop Shark
Shop Shark
L Offline
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 135
On some of those after market senders you can slide the float bar out and put it in the other side to reverse the action of the resistor.


1961 ford f500
1953 3100 five window (https://www.facebook.com/1953-Chevrolet-5-window-1533405913413610/)
1955-2 3200 big window (https://www.facebook.com/Leep3200/)
55yrs as a mechanic and retired. (kind of)
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 135
L
Shop Shark
Shop Shark
L Offline
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 135
As a side note if the sender doesn't have a reversible float shaft you can "carefully" bend the float shaft 180 degrees close to the pivot point and accomplish the same effect.


1961 ford f500
1953 3100 five window (https://www.facebook.com/1953-Chevrolet-5-window-1533405913413610/)
1955-2 3200 big window (https://www.facebook.com/Leep3200/)
55yrs as a mechanic and retired. (kind of)
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,177
Red dot, center of chest ...
Red dot, center of chest ...
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,177
Take the float out of the tank with the wire still connected. Attach a ground wire to the mounting flange (you can use a small bolt and nut to do this). Then move the float up and down while someone monitors the gauge. If it reads full when the float is down, and empty when it's up, and it goes up and down smoothly as you manipulate the float, then you've confirmed that the float is the problem and not something else. Once you've confirmed that, figure out how to reverse the float, as LeeP points out, so that the resistance increases as the gas level increases.

It's a very simple circuit. The flange is grounded, and the wiper bar that moves on the resistor adds resistance to the circuit based on the float level. When the float is in the down position (empty), the wiper bar should be all the way at the bottom (or top, depending upon its design) of the resistor. If, when the float is down, the bar is farthest away from the grounded side, the float needs to be reversed.


Paul Schmehl CI 6
geek@stovebolt.com
Stovebolt Staff: Geek
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 18
T
New Guy
New Guy
T Offline
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 18
Question regarding Harold46 post of fuel gauge testing.
Fuel gauge in 51 Chev. 3100 five window reading full. Question is, if I pull the battery from the vehicle and the issues covered in the fillingstation article exist (bad ground, etc) will the gauge still read full?

Thanks,
Sam
Tex. Chev. 51

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
If a good gauge/sender is not grounded at the sender, it will read full (if the ignition switch is on and the battery is good).

Run a lead/wire from a sender screw to a good/clean ground, to test the gauge and the quality of the "circuit".

Do you have a 6v or 12v electrical system?


Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 34
E
Wrench Fetcher
Wrench Fetcher
E Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 34
It is a 6 volt system. And yes, I do have a good ground from the sender screw to the frame. Thanks to all that have replied.

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,084
A
'Bolter
'Bolter
A Offline
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,084
Did you ever get this sorted Ed?


Allen
Yeah, well, that's just like, you know , your opinion, man - The Dude

1948 Chevy 3600 - goal Original restoration, Current Stage 1 - Disassembly and getting body in primer
1954 GMC 3100 goal Hot Rod, Current Stage 1 - Get body in primer
1931 Ford Model A 5 window Coupe - Old Skool Hot Rod
1945 Ford 2N Tractor - Runs great
1964 Ford 2000 Tractor - Use it every week
1974 Stingray Corvette

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,272
5
Renaissance Man
Renaissance Man
5 Offline
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,272
He last posted on 12-9-2017.
I am going to guess that whoever manufactured that sending unit, assembled it wrong. Would like to hear back from guys with problems like this.
Maybe he used a sharpie and put an F where the E belongs, and vise-versa like I'd've done. (Take note of the rarely used triple contraction. smile )
Carl


1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,084
A
'Bolter
'Bolter
A Offline
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,084
Could be Carl. I'm having some fuel gauge issues so need to bone up. Nothing is easy to get to. Noticed that Harold posted some pretty good documentation on troubleshooting.


Allen
Yeah, well, that's just like, you know , your opinion, man - The Dude

1948 Chevy 3600 - goal Original restoration, Current Stage 1 - Disassembly and getting body in primer
1954 GMC 3100 goal Hot Rod, Current Stage 1 - Get body in primer
1931 Ford Model A 5 window Coupe - Old Skool Hot Rod
1945 Ford 2N Tractor - Runs great
1964 Ford 2000 Tractor - Use it every week
1974 Stingray Corvette


Moderated by  Jon G, Rusty Rod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Home | FAQ | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0