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#1212477 04/10/2017 1:07 PM
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Hey Guys, when I woke up my 55 1st series from its winter nap
it ran very roughly and would not idle. I ended up rebuilding the carb, new coil, points, condenser, cap and rotor.
So I get it running and go to time it and can't find the ball with the timing light. I took the dust cover off and cleaned up the flywheel and painted the ball white and still cant locate it with the timing light. Any ideas?
Thanks!

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Which spark plug (number & location) are you connecting the timing light to?

If you have a vacuum gauge, attach it to the wiper port in the intake manifold, under the carburetor. Rotate the distributor to obtain maximum vacuum (warmed-up engine at idle). This will get you close to optimum vacuum.

Stovebolt Engine Tuning using a Vacuum Gauge

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If you've got the ball on the flywheel cleaned up and painted, it should be a simple task to turn the flywheel until the ball aligns with the pointer and check to see which spark plug wire the distributor rotor is pointing toward. It should be #1 or #6, as the engine turns twice for every turn of the distributor. You can use either spark plug with a strobe light to set the timing. The flywheel bolt pattern is almost, but not quite idiot-proof, as the bolt holes are not perfectly spaced. A sufficiently persistent idiot could probably install it wrong by not using all the bolts, but there would also be a massive oil leak through the hole for the missing bolt(s) as the bolt holes go all the way through the crankshaft flange and a leak can bypass the rear oil seal if they're not all there.
Jerry


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pjdee #1212525 04/10/2017 4:29 PM
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Thanks for the tips guys. I had the light hooked up to the
first cylinder plug wire. I'll see if I can round up a vacuum gauge. Thanks again!

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You are looking into the hole in the bellhousing above the starter, right? There's also a hole on the driver's side with no pointer in it, and trying to find a timing mark in that one is a totally lost cause. I think the vacuum gauge "timing" method is a bunch of bovine scatology- - - -there are MUCH more accurate methods of setting and checking ignition timing.
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pjdee,

Bovine scatology (tuning a stove bolt six's timing and original carburetor using a vacuum gauge) has worked for me on 216/235/261 engines for over 40 years.

I do not race them, but they run smoothly and seemingly flawlessly (that's what matters).

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Jerry,

I once "timed" my '48 using that hole on the driver's side with some hole in the flywheel. It ran awful but it did run.

I know a little more now but not much more.


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34 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
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If you know someone with an adjustable timing light, you'll be able to find the elusive BB with that....

I am following this thread with great interest. All BB's must be accounted for! lol




~ Dave
1950 Chevrolet 3600 3/4-ton with 261 engine & T5 Transmission

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