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#1193978 12/05/2016 6:56 PM
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I'm so excited - I recently picked up another good 261 (complete with the truck its in, original and un-molested). I posted on here a few years ago about TWO of them I had acquired - one in a '51 6100 and another I took out of a '55 6100. I ended up locating the original owner's family of the '51 and sold the truck back to them and then sold the other 261 a month later because I felt like I would never have a use for it. Boy was I wrong. I wish I had kept it. I'm planning to put this other one in my '50 4100 after I freshen it up. I need to post some more pics of my '50. Maybe I can remember to do that sometime this week.


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Do you know what year 261s were first built?
My 261 is an early 1950s. It uses a short water-pump & no bars on the block.
Do you know if early 50s 261s has a cast or steel distributor gear, or year they may had changed if ever?


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The 261 was introduced in 1954.

A 261 with "short"/higher water pump was available in 1954 and 1955-1st series trucks.

Post the codes whose locations are shown on this page. We/you will then be able to ID what you have.

The 261 probably has the later style/composition gear on the distributor, if it is the original 261 distributor. Pre '68 Dave might comment on this?

http://chev235guy.blogspot.com/search/label/Distributor%20part%20numbers%20by%20year

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Yea, I had this motor built back in 2005. I let it sit on the stand for all those years, I just put it in my 39 two door sedan. It has the original cam, but some time back I purchased a NOS distributor. The box disappeared & I don't remember what year dist. but I think it's late 50s/early 60s. I have started the motor a few times but not ran it yet. not knowing if the cam/dist material are same has wore heavy on my mind.
Rebuilding the motor, I had a 1962 235 head machined to fit, & It's now a full pressure oil system. Electronic ignition with fenten two carb intake & fenten exhaust. It should be a fun motor to run.

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1939 Chevy 2 door Sedan

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" . . . & It's now a full pressure oil system."

Darrell,

What is now a full-pressure oil system? Your 261?
All 261s were high-pressure ("full pressure") oil systems.

You are putting a 235 head on a 261 block - correct?

If so, did you drill the extra coolant passages in the 235 head to match-up with the extra coolant passages in the 261 block?

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Yes I had the head drilled to match the block water passages.
Maybe I'm using the wrong word but like the 235 & 216 blocks, The oil still had a bypass. Only a percentage of the oil went through an oil canister mounted on the manifold. By adding a block in the oil gallery, diverting all the oil, using larger hoses out & into a spin-on type filter, all the oil gets filtered.
It's been years now, I don't remember if it was Patrick's or Langdon's Stovebolt 6, I believe Landon had an article on building a 261 for performance.
It's all over my head so I had a local engine shop build the long block.

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Darrell, W.L.
1939 Chevy COE tow truck/My Stubbed toe
1939 Chevy 2 door Sedan

Car chat means talks about Chevy's. All other car makers only build transportation.
I don't work on my cars, I entertain my self in my garage, so my nabor tells me.


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If you are referring to the oil filtration systems, the 1958-1963 261 had the capability to be set up with a full-flow oil filtration system. Yes, 1/2" NPT lines (two rigid metal tubes and two flexible hoses) were used. This setup was not a spin-on type filter (like moder filters) - it was a paper cartridge inside a metal canister.

Just to complicate things, the 1958-1963 261s could also be set up with a by-pass oil filtration system (or, no oil filtration system).

216s, 235s, and 1954-1957 261s had only an optional by-pass oil filtration system.

It is possible to use a modern spin-on filter-head (like modern oil filters) on the full-flow 261s. I have done that on the 1960 261 that is in my 1954 Suburban.

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I'm use an oldschool Toilet paper filter 1950s Bee-Hive spin-on canister.
There is a photo of my 261 in my photobucket. The wrong side of the motor, but I do see the oil canister laying under the motor on the motor stand. "lower Right in the photo". I had to go full screen to see it.

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1939 Chevy COE tow truck/My Stubbed toe
1939 Chevy 2 door Sedan

Car chat means talks about Chevy's. All other car makers only build transportation.
I don't work on my cars, I entertain my self in my garage, so my nabor tells me.


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Nice COE, my '37 GMC conventional has the same gauges, were you able to get modern guts for your gauges or?

Thanks,

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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I have not got to the dash yet on my COE project, but I'm sure modern gages will be no problem finding for your 1937 truck. I'm leaning toward Changing out my dash with something more classy? I like the front look's of 1959 & 1963 Chevy car dashes?

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Darrell, W.L.
1939 Chevy COE tow truck/My Stubbed toe
1939 Chevy 2 door Sedan

Car chat means talks about Chevy's. All other car makers only build transportation.
I don't work on my cars, I entertain my self in my garage, so my nabor tells me.


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OLDSCHOOL CHEV,

What is the year of your 261?

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This 261 that I have came out of a '58 C60 Viking. The seller had it advertised as a '59, but it turns out the truck is a '58 model. I am certain the engine is original.


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What is the engine serial number pressed into the block to the rear of the distributor?

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I will need to go out @ check, but it's a short water-pump block. But no II bars on block. So I would expect it's a very early model. I know it's a 261, it has more water ports & 3" pistons.


Darrell, W.L.
1939 Chevy COE tow truck/My Stubbed toe
1939 Chevy 2 door Sedan

Car chat means talks about Chevy's. All other car makers only build transportation.
I don't work on my cars, I entertain my self in my garage, so my nabor tells me.


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Here's a video of mine running today. Ran it for about 2 hours or so. Runs great.



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Got the casting numbers this evening. Block: 3759365. Head: 3836850.

The block was set up with a bypass style oil filter and not the full flow. Although the truck is a '58, it appears the engine is '57 spec.


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