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"Lucille" ..... Proud Member of the "Southern Stovebolts" David Wolff 1946 Chevy 1/2-ton In the Gallery | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | My solution to the same problem.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 397 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 397 | LONGBOX55,
His trick was much cheaper than yours!
"Lucille" ..... Proud Member of the "Southern Stovebolts" David Wolff 1946 Chevy 1/2-ton In the Gallery | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,189 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,189 | His trick is also portable  Mike B  | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 | That is a great looking video. In my humble opinion, I don't really believe the lug and nut warmed up enough with the lighter to have the affect it was supposed to. | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | I too wondered if it's real. Hard to see but I imagine a drip or two of instantly cooled wax on the nut/stud. If the metal is not warm enough to keep the wax melted how can it wick in between the threads?
I've used the paraffin trick on stubborn fasteners using an acetylene torch, pretty much the hotter the better and add the wax as it cools to a point it won't all catch on fire, which is still "smokin hot". | | | | Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 631 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 631 | +10 on the last two posts..........candle trick..........booooocus as the car guy's would say | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | just work out more and use more ump Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 | Might be a little late to reply, but you can try Deep Creep. Better than WD-40. Soak the nuts real good and leave them for about 24 hours; then take your impact wrench and put it Forward and tighten for a second or so, then reverse it and the nuts should bust loose. Worked for me a couple of times. | | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 910 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 910 | Penetrating oils will always be better than WD40 for it's primary job is as a moisture displacer and lubricant. Because it has a very low viscosity and when the rust is not that tough it works.
This is why I always grab the Liquid Wrench can first. Never used Kroil and due to it's price I most likely will not. Jeffrey | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 731 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 731 | Has anyone noticed a perceptible difference between PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, Deep Creep or others? Any preferences?
Matthew 6:33 1952 Chevy 1/2-ton 3100 Late '55 235/SM420/torque tube 3.55 Dalton Highway survivor (using original 216) www.truckwithaheart.com | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | It may not be a unanimous decision but for years the consensus has been Kroil is the best.........although transmission fluid mixed with diesel fuel is darn good. There have been "experiments" post here before and Kroil wins by a smidgen! Search "kroil" and you'll probably find an hours worth of reading.
I stocked up on Kroil when I would get buy one of the big cans and get one free....sometimes even free shipping...and as Jerry suggest, buy it in the gallon cans its much more economical and use your own spray bottle. If my stash of cans ever run out that's what I'll do. I like Kroil and the plants where I worked for years use it as their #1 got to can. | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | I used to like PB Blaster and still do, it works very well. I also have a can of Kroil and it works at least as good or perhaps better. I use it frequently and only a couple drops at a time, I've had the one can for many years and it's still plenty full.
The comments about high price are misguided, it doesn't take much to do the job so it is very cheap for each use. Perhaps folks that think it is expensive are accustomed to spraying their penetrant of choice freely and wildly, wasting the majority of it? | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | Kroil is my choice and like Grigg said, it don't take very much.
Don 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 910 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 910 | I say use what you like but for those that have not seen this I provided a copy and paste. Jeffrey
Penetrating oil .......... Average load
None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ............ 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............... 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix.............53 pounds
The Automatic Transmission fluid (ATF)-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | Anyone else have trouble getting the acetone and transmission fluid to remain mixed together? It seems to be like water and oil for me.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 | That's interesting data Jeffery. I always go with PB as it is cheap and readily available...suppose I should focus more on the Liquid Wrench. I think heat works way better than any penetrant though. | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | I mentioned earlier diesel and tranny fluid....I meant Acetone and tranny fluid. I'm getting old!
...one thing I remember most folks complaining about it how fast the Acetone evaporates. I use acetone sometimes doing wood work and you do have to keep a tight lid on it.
...and I agree with who said a little goes a long way! | | | | Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 146 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 146 | I'll bet you can break a lot of 70-year-rusted lug studs with that baby! Now please return to YET ANOTHER thread that has degenerated into a debate over whose favorite penetrating oil is superior.  .
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,696 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,696 | ATF-Acetone mix is one of my favorite rust penetrators. Also like Pentron. Using a lighter and a candle? Gotta try that.
Craig My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
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