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| | Forums66 Topics126,781 Posts1,039,297 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | I've been getting a lot done on my truck since I got it. Mostly just cleaning and reassembling things. I got a battery and the engine is free, so i tried cranking it a bit. It was cranking extremely slowly and then stopped all together. I figured it was just a dead battery so i brought it to work and charged it the next day. Before I reinstalled the battery I disassembled the starter and cleaned it all up along with cleaning all of the battery connections. I put everything back turned the Ignition to check voltage at the coil and battery and every thing looked good. went to crank the engine again and got about two revolutions out of it before it stopped again. I then pulled the plugs and the engine will crank freely.
I can't figure out what would be causing my problem. I should also mention that i brought the battery in and it tested fine.
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | 6v electrical system?
6v systems use 2 gauge or 1 gauge or 1/0 (0) gauge or 2/0 (00) gauge battery cables (for both cables)? The smaller the gauge, the bigger the cable.
12v battery/jumper cables are usually 4 gauge (or smaller gauge) cables. These are not satisfactory for a 6v system. | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | 6V positive ground
The positive to the frame is 1/0 or 2, its pretty big. The negitive to the starter looks to be 4 though. Would that amperage drop be enough to stop it from cranking?
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | It could (it did for me). | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | So I discovered that only one parts store near me carries battery cable by the foot, and I wasn't able to get across town before they closed.
2/0 is $4.49 a foot there so I figured I'd do all of the grounds while I'm at it, so i was looking at roughly 8 feet. I also plan on soldering the ends instead of crimping.
Any ideas of stuff to try before I replace all the cables?
Last edited by AdamK1500; 05/20/2016 11:57 PM.
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 | Have the battery load tested. Load it to 1/2 the cold cranking amp rating for 20 seconds, then check the terminal voltage with the load still applied. The voltage should not be below 4.5 volts. For instance, if the CCA is 400, load it to 200 amps for 20 seconds, then look at the voltage. If it fails, recharge and retest, or replace the battery. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | They put it on a tester when I brought it in Wednesday, I guess I'm not sure what the tester tests though.
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | No luck on the battery cables, there's not much else to the starting system, not sure where else to look. It seems like now might be a good time to get the 12v swap done!
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,189 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,189 | Lots of BIG truck repair garages can make custon battery cables, ask around... Have you tries NAPA? Maybe these guys can make what you need... http://www.custombatterycables.com/Mike B  | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | I got cables, I meant that they didn't solve my problem.
I pulled the spark plugs and it wouldn't crank even with zero compression. I'm really starting to think the battery is dead. I'm going to go to a different auto parts store and get it tested again.
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 | Try substituting a 12V battery temporarily- - - -just disconnect the coil from the distributor to prevent burning the points while you do a little cranking speed test. You could also disconnect the heavy wire from the starter to the ammeter if you're worried about damaging the gas gauge, etc. Running just the starter on 12V for a short time won't hurt it. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | The truck cranks very well with a 12V battery, even with the plugs in.
I think I may have gotten a bad/dead 6V battery
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,189 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,189 | Did you put a volt meter on the battery? What's the voltage? Mike B  | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | The 6V battery puts out around 6.3 volts. I don't have a tester to check the specific gravity of the acid though. So I can't really check if its charged at home.
Last edited by AdamK1500; 05/22/2016 6:57 AM.
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 96 | Got my battery tested yet again today and the shop determined it was dead on arrival. New batter and my problem is solved!
So don't assume that the battery you just bought is not the problem...
1954 GMC 350-27
| | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 140 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 140 | a lot of people make that assumption.....and not just with batteries.New doesn't mean its good.....especially these days. | | |
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