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| | Forums66 Topics126,778 Posts1,039,258 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 | Hi B's & G's I don't know where to ask this question so here it is. I have been working on a 1954 3100 that someone restored 7 or 8 years ago. He doesn't drive very often so the brakes have leaking issues I intend to repair. When he first got this truck I noticed that the rear axle sets 3 or 4 inches further back than is should. It looked like someone installed a short bed on a long frame. And this is what we have been telling everyone. As it turns out someone installed a GMC rear diff and drive shaft for a long box on to this short box truck. I now know this because when I bought the rear wheel cylinders I had to get ones for a GMC. What I am having questions over is are the rear springs different? The axle seems to be rear of center point on the leaf springs. Is this normal? I don't see a locating boss where the axle should be (in the center) Does it have a locating boss for the axle? Or will I have to replace the rear diff,drive shaft, and rear springs?
I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, you can't prove anything! "Bart Simpson" | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | If the brake parts are different the rear end must be a Spicer from the later '50s or early '60s. There's no telling how it was rigged. I would expect to change everything to get it right.
If you want to keep the open drive shaft look for the rear end and springs from a '55 first series. | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | While I have plenty of input which I could offer, without pictures, I don't feel comfortable sharing it with you due to safety concerns. I need to know what rear end you have, and what kind of spring perches are on it. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 | Ok guys ill add some pictures. cletis the drive shaft is a closed shaft now and the truck is way to clean to change the original design.
I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, you can't prove anything! "Bart Simpson" | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | If it is a closed driveshaft it should use the same brake parts whether it came from a Chevy or GMC. They used the same differential in the closed driveline years. | | | | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 | Hummmm! Well the wheel cyl's on the rear have the adjusters built on the cylinder. the ones on the front have a separate adjuster at the bottom. The backing plates have 2 slots on the rear and only one on the front. According to the part numbers we matched up the rears come off a GMC and the fronts were Chevrolet. I don't know the year models they matched. HUMMMMM!!! I will get pictures and see if the diff. has id or numbers.
I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, you can't prove anything! "Bart Simpson" | | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 | Sounds like the rear brakes are early Huck and the fronts are later Bendix. The fronts are the right ones for that truck,where the rear end came from is anyone's guess.If there is someone in the area with a 52 to 55 1st you could look at the rear and see how it should be.Start looking for a rear end from a 52 to 55 1st and you should be OK.Look at the Parts for sale here.
Pete | | | | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 | Thanks Pete I am moving to the drivetrain room with pictures and my idea of what has happened.
I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, you can't prove anything! "Bart Simpson" | | |
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