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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,267 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 48 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 48 | I'm new to dual headlights and I have a bit of confusion as to how the hi/low beams operate on my 58 Apache. I'm hoping someone can tell me if the following is the proper operation. I pull the headlight switch on and the two outer headlights come on. When the hi/low switch is stepped on, the outer headlights turn off and the inner ones come on. Is this correct? It seems odd to me as I would think at some point all 4 headlights would be on for high beam and only one set would be on for low beam? On each set of headlights I have a green wire coming from the inner two prong bulb jumping to the outer 3 prong bulb. This would lead me to believe that at some point all 4 bulbs would be on but I'm not getting those results. I checked the hi/low switch with a meter and it toggles the power (labeled BA on switch)from one pole (green) to the other (brown) seperatly. I have rewired this truck with an original style harness from Jim Carter and followed the directions. Any wisdom much appreciated. | | | | Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 152 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 152 | My '59 with what appears to be original wiring switches all four headlights on when on high beam.
Oldbolter 1959 Apache 3800 dually flat bed/dump with 261 1956 3800 dually flat bed/dump with 235 1957 3600 flat bed, 350 engine, 700R4, PS, disc brakes, 14 bolt rear with 4.11 gears
| | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | outside lights have a dual filament. Low beam is only outside (low beam filament) when you hit the high beams, all 4 will light up (hi beam filament in outside lights plus the inner lights) | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 | As 69Cuda says, the outside head lights have dual filaments. When on low beam 1 filament lights, when high beam is switched on that filament goes out, and the other (high beam) filament comes on. Just maybe the (high beam) filaments are burned out on both the outside head lights. Did you check to see if you had voltage with a test light or meter at the green and brown wire terminals on the back outside head lights when in the high beam position?
Brian 1955.2 3100 Truck The older I get the more dangerous I am!!!!! | | | | Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 48 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 48 | Thanks for the insight guys. Seemed like a dumb question to ask but having never had a dual headlight vehicle I wasn't sure how they were designed to work. Now I know and can head in the right direction.
I did check the green and tan wire with a meter and I got power at both and it is switching with the hi/low foot switch. The black ground wire looks like a good ground and buzzed out to the engine block in continuity test. All 4 bulbs are brand new so its got to be something I'm doing wrong. I'm thinking I might have the 3 wires going to the outside headlights inserted in the connector in the wrong order? Of the 3 prongs one has to be hi, one low, and the third is ground which both filaments should connect to. I don't remember seeing the prongs on the bulb labeled so I must have used something in the instructions with the wire harness to determine wire placement in the plastic headlight connector. I'll have to double check those tonight after work. Thanks for the help thus far! | | | | Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 48 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 48 | Problem solved! Turns out both headlight wire harnesses had broken wires inside the insulation at the point where the green jumper goes from the two prong connector to the three prong one. Somehow they broke just beyond the factory installed connector where the two wires are stamped together. Strange it happened to both brand new harnesses! Even stranger is that it makes a connection when I pull the connector out to test with the meter but once pushed back in it cuts out. Man those 4 headlights look cool all lit up! Thanks for the help guys. | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 Big Bolt Forum Moderator | Big Bolt Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,061 | glad you got it solved! Yes, they look way cool all light up! You may want to let the company know where you got the harness from, they may have an issue with the way they crimp the ends on.
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