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I have a line on a good vortec 350. I want to use it on my hotrod, the issue I am concerned with is it has no opening for a mechanical fuel pump and I have heard possible bad things about using an electric pump. I will be using a carb on this engine. Thoughts? Dave


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Use an oil pressure sensing switch to run the pump. If the engine stalls and the oil pressure drops, the pump shuts off to prevent a possible flooding situation. You can use a pressure regulator if necessary to give the carb the proper fuel line pressure, although most electric pumps that aren't designed for racing should be in the ballpark without a regulator. The pressure switch used on General Motors fuel injected vehicles combines an idiot light ground with a normally-open 2-contact switch for powering a fuel pump.

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Lots of good electric pumps available. I ran electric pumps on hot rods 50 years ago w/o any problems. All new cars run electric so I would think reliability issues have been resolved. I would recommend wiring so that when the key is off the pump has no power to it.


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I had an external electric fuel pump on my FI 383 SBC for 7 years before I sold it. The pump was a quiet Edlebrock. I installed a regulator and a pressure gauge. No problems. The only thing I was told to watch out for was cavitation in the pump due to too small a line going in, or too restrictive of a filter going in. I had a 10 AN line going in, and an 8AN line going out, which eventually necked down to a 6AN at the injectors. Had a 100 micro fuel filter at the inlet. Lots of pumps available, but try to get one that's durable and quiet.

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I've never heard of wiring a pump to an oil pressure switch, and it's not necessary.

There are many reliable pumps that work with carbs reliably.


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Originally Posted by 46gmcpu
I've never heard of wiring a pump to an oil pressure switch, and it's not necessary.


It is a safety precaution. If you are in a collision, hopefully it stops your engine and that stops the pump.


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A stopped engine does not mean the electricity is off.

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I had a vapor lock issue with an '83 Trans Am with a Chevy 305 (carburated and mechanical fuel pump). It was a from-the-factory issue. It had to do with the routing of the fuel line near something hot. I solved it with a Holley electric fuel pump and an adjustable pressure regulator with a return line for the excess fuel. This solved the vapor lock by creating a constant flow of fuel going through the fuel line. I did not run the electrical through an oil pressure switch. I would have, had I known about it.
Bottom line: Don't fear a quality electric fuel pump with a regulator in a hotrod.
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Originally Posted by Ssrjim
A stopped engine does not mean the electricity is off.

A stopped engine has no oil pressure. If a fuel pump is wired to a pressure switch it will not operate with no oil pressure.


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Some poker players will draw to an inside straight. That doesn't necessarily make it a smart choice.
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Always wire in an oil pressure switch to run an electric fuel pump. Best safety device ever. I learned that the hard way.

Even if the ignition switch gets left on, the pump won't run if the oil pressure isn't there to close the switch.

In a wreck with a straight wired pump, the pump can continually run and pump fuel every where if a broken fuel line happens.

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I have seen the crankcase of a friend's engine completely filled with gasoline, and gas dripping out of the exhaust pipes from a flooding carburetor and an ignition switch left on. That one was a fun job to clean up after a trip home by a wrecker.
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Are newer vehicles which came with electric fuel pumps wired through an oil pressure switch or do they have another way to shut it off when the engine stops running?


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All GM fuel injected vehicles that I'm aware of use an oil pressure switch to power the fuel pump. There is a 2-second "priming run" to pressurize the fuel rail anytime the ignition is turned on, and/or the pump runs continuously while the starter is engaged, then the switch takes over to keep the engine running. It used to be called a "rollover switch" to be sure the engine would stop in case of a rollover accident. Ford used something similar, an "impact switch" that would trip in a wreck with more deceleration than a fender-bender. The idea is to make sure the fuel stops flowing anytime there's the possibility of broken fuel lines or any possibility of gasoline spillage.
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A deer ran into the side of our Cougar while we were traveling highway speed and it tripped the impact switch. Took me a minute or two to figure why it killed the engine.


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