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| | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,267 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 105 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 105 | I painted my leaf springs and made the mistake of not masking the bolt threads. Now I can't get the bolts to thread, and I'm wondering what is the safest way to clean the threads without damaging them. I've heard of Dremel-ing them out with a wire attachment (at low speed) and also chasing the threads with a tap and die. Both options make me a little concerned that I'll ruin the threads. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | ..do you have a wire brush on a bench grnder? That would do the trick in short order. In situations like you mentioned I've usually been, with a little elbow grease, to tighten them up. I did this on the ones of my 52panel. Running a die up on the threads should not hurt it...although there are thread "chasers" as I call them, just to clean up the threads and not "cut" them any. If still fresh paint would a little paint thinner cut the paint off? | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | I have used thread chasers for years. Not designed to cut thread, just clean them up. 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | | | Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 465 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 465 | thread chasers,and thread file if needed for damaged areas | | | | Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 105 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 105 | Thanks everyone. I'll give the thread chaser a try. Never having to used one, I was just a bit worried I'd cut new threads and ruin the whole thing. | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | I've never had a cleaning set although I know of them and of their value. I've used/borrowed from my buddies a time or two and usually keep them till they bring some of my tools back! If I ever see them on an isle somewhere I'll buy them...just haven't seen them or they never jumped out at me!
They are very handy and on restorations I try to make sure the bolts, or nuts, screw in easy with my hand. It saves a lot of aggravation wondering if the bolt, or the bolt hole is boogered up a bit and you decide to "force it in anyway"....that when the patience Jerry speaks about comes into play. I've been told I have the patience of Job but those folks have never seen me working on a 65 year old truck! Whew. | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,058 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,058 | Try using a brass wire wheel on a grinder. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Drop the bolts in a plastic container and spray them with oven cleaner- - - -the paint will lift off in record time! Rinse them in very hot water and the metal will come out clean and new-looking, with no damage to the threads. If necessary, a quick buff-up with a wire wheel on a bench grinder will complete the job. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 Sir Searchalot | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 | Are you talking about U bolt threads or what? If you can take whatever bolts you are talking about off the truck, a wire wheel is the fastest, safest, least messy way just to get paint off. Don't need to chase threads for paint. That will gum up almost as bad as the nut would have. You can't possibly do any damage to threads with a wire wheel. If you can't remove whatever bolts you are talking about from truck, chuck a wire wheel into your drill motor and go get em. DON'T FORGET TO WEAR EYE PROTECTION. The little wires fly off quite often. Keep kids away. | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | What bart said! I showed up at the dinner table with a wire sicking out of my forehead (just below the fivehead area). I felt it when it came off the wire wheel, but assumed that it fell to the floor. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 | What bart said! I showed up at the dinner table with a wire sicking out of my forehead (just below the fivehead area). I felt it when it came off the wire wheel, but assumed that it fell to the floor. Carl The mental image just cracks me up... Just today I took a "wire" in the forehead right above my face shield. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | I was doing some paint stripping on some off-road construction equipment, using a big angle grinder with a wire cup wheel on it. When I got undressed to take a shower that night, my underwear hung up on something. I had a wire imbedded almost 1/2" into my upper thigh, with only about 1/8" sticking out! It took a pretty good pull with a pair of needle-nose pliers to get the thing out! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 Sir Searchalot | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 | You almost pinned the "tail" on the donkey! | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | I was doing some paint stripping on some off-road construction equipment, using a big angle grinder with a wire cup wheel on it. When I got undressed to take a shower that night, my underwear hung up on something. I had a wire imbedded almost 1/2" into my upper thigh, with only about 1/8" sticking out! It took a pretty good pull with a pair of needle-nose pliers to get the thing out! Jerry I got one in my leg once and when I stood up it disappeared like a spagetti noodle. Doc couldn't find it and finally just said "lots of junkies are walking around with needle points broken off inside them... you'll be fine. "
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Yep, don't thing you have to tell anyone that's spent any real time at the wire wheel, but these newbies and youngsters might not feel the danger at first. Got a numb spot just above my knee. It would itch often for weeks and then one day my hand snagged on somethin', sho nuff, a little stub of a wire was poking thru the skin. Like Jerry I managed to grab it with some small needle nose and pulled out not a half inch, but about three eights. Get them in my hair and cloths all the time since wire brushing is my favorite way to restore old metal parts over sand blasting. What was this thread about??????
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 | Well.... It was about cleaning bolt threads. Now it's about being impelled by small wire / war stories. But I have faith we can bring it back around! | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 | One more war story. Wire from a wire wheel on a bench grinder went into my inner thigh 1" or so long and disappeared. Went to the hospital, and within 45 minutes I was on the operating table getting it removed. When they X rayed it, it was real close to an artery and had to come out. Be careful out there.
Brian 1955.2 3100 Truck The older I get the more dangerous I am!!!!! | | | | Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 924 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 924 | I understand the significance of being safe with wire wheels, etc - but concerning thread cleaning & what is mentioned above :
I don't have any of the chasers linked above and use taps as my thread cleaning tool. Is this not good to do? (Aside from just wearing a tap out)
For my question, we can use all the body threads/holes not on the engine. Pretty much all of them needed chasing/cleaning.
Brad
Wrench Fetcher, PhD | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 Sir Searchalot | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 | I do not have chasers either and have been chasing with taps and dies for 40 years. I chase body, motor and all other threaded parts with tap and die. I wire wheel bolts first, then chase. If it's the correct size and pitch and you are careful when starting, it's perfectly OK. I do it all the time. Just be sure to do what your daddy taught you....two around and 1/2 back to clean. Similar to new threading. If it gets too tight, unthread and check, clean and oil and go back at it. On a chase job, I try to start by hand and then add the tool. In general, take off the tool and unthread by hand so as to take weight off the threads (internal and external). Turning part upside down during unthread, if possible, is even better, with or without tool. Tool=tap or die holder. The old hardware on these trucks (AD and up), if not rusted, is as strong as the day they were made. So reuse them all except lock washers and cotter pins. | | | | Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 924 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 924 | Thanks, Chief- I know the chaser(s) have been around a long time... I've just never owned any because the taps worked fine.
I was taught to go by "feel" (when threading, etc) & I'm still learning. As soon as I got somewhat proficient with tapping/threading holes into new steel I started working on this old truck. I am having to relearn a certain finesse & "feel" with its metal as well.
Brad Wrench Fetcher, PhD | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 Sir Searchalot | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 | " A beer chaser is the only natural chaser for Human Beings." | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 442 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 442 | A few years ago, I purchased Big Gator drill and tap guides, in order to keep the tap at a 90degree angle to the surface, They work good, as does the drill guide! Nothing worse than having a tap go in at an angle. Mike | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,436 | Another tip when putting clean threads back together is lubrication on the bolts. I use some Never-Seez on everything I put together. Wheel grease will also work. If you ever have to take it apart, it makes life a whole lot easier .
Don 1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck"The Flag Pole"In the Stovebolt Gallery'46 2-Ton grain truck | '50 2-ton flatbed | '54 Pontiac Straight Eight | '54 Plymouth Belvidere | '70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck | '76 Triumph TR-6 Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most! | | |
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