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hey all, I'm looking into raising my highway speed a little without changing my driveline in my '69. what is the best gear ratio to go down the highway with the 305 v6 cruising comfortably at 70-5 mph but still have all the pulling power as before?

i believe I have a 4:11 gear ratio in it now, but all I can say is it's slow. it is at about 3000 rpm at 65 mph with the wind to my back.

Thanks in advance, Indy wink


1949 Dodge Coronet
1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton
1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline
1968 Chevy P20 stepvan
1969 GMC LWB pickup
1972 GMC Sprint
1974 CP30 shorty bus

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If you're referring to your V6, it's got enough torque to handle a higher gear but gas mileage will suffer. I'd suggest something in the 3.55 or 3.36 ratio range. I had a 3.73 gear in my 59 Burb, a mixmaster setup of a GMC Dana 60 housing, Ford gears, and a Dodge pinion flange. If you've got the 3/4 ton Eaton rear axle, the 4.11 will be the tallest gear that's available.
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Ok, just went out to see if it was a dana rear end and all I could come up with is on the back of the pumpkin (rear of truck on pass. side) a series of numbers are cast upside down. they are 12348 and directly below those are 87880. then on the other side (towards front of truck and also on pass. side) is stamped NE 3896838 it is marked GM55 and i did come up with it is a GM 12 bolt truck axle. do these numbers mean anything?


1949 Dodge Coronet
1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton
1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline
1968 Chevy P20 stepvan
1969 GMC LWB pickup
1972 GMC Sprint
1974 CP30 shorty bus

There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 big_eek



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OK, figured out that the numbers given above are on most 12 bolt rear differentials, I did find a 12 bolt axle that might swap gears, and found the correct numbers on the passenger side on the axle tube. it reads THA 32 1 and I will get the numbers off of my axle soon, but what is this ratio? I can't seem to find any info on the web of any decoding tools or charts. it is out of a 72 chevy.


1949 Dodge Coronet
1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton
1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline
1968 Chevy P20 stepvan
1969 GMC LWB pickup
1972 GMC Sprint
1974 CP30 shorty bus

There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 big_eek



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jack it up (both rear wheels off the ground) make a mark on the driveline and have someone turn the wheel one revolution while counting the revs of the driveline. Then you'll know for sure.


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The THA code comes up as a '71 C10, 3.07:1 ratio. I think CASO is right, try checking it counting the revolutions. Something doesn't add up if you're winding it out, especially if it does have the ratio the code says it should have.
I do have a question that might be relevant to the situation; What size tires are you running? A small diameter tire will be similar to putting a lower gear in the diff.


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What transmission do you have?
A 700R4 or a T-5 may solve your problem easier than swapping rear ends/gear set, and give you better gas mileage. Both have overdrive.


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First thing to do is find out what ratio you really have as was pointed above. Then make an informed decision.


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
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Trying to figure out the axle ratio with both wheels off the ground is a little tricky. I like to mark a tire at ground level, and roll the truck forward or back one turn of the wheel while counting driveshaft revolutions. The only surefire way is to drop the rear cover plate and count gear teeth. For instance, a 41 tooth ring gear matched with a 10 tooth pinion gives a 4.10:1 gear ratio.
Jerry


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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
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alright, my apologies for my delay in response, but I turned the wheel one revolution and the driveline turned 3 3/4 turns. the axle that has the 3.07 gears is not in my truck, but I can put those gears in it if they will work. my truck has the stock 2 speed turbo tranny with 16 inch tires (stock were 15). if my calculations are right my gears should be 3.73:1 right?


1949 Dodge Coronet
1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton
1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton
1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline
1968 Chevy P20 stepvan
1969 GMC LWB pickup
1972 GMC Sprint
1974 CP30 shorty bus

There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 big_eek




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