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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | If your crank journal is worn perfectly round, without scoring, and you replace the old bearing with a 0.002 undersize (not oversize), you will end up with 0.003 oil clearance. I believe that is at the outer limit of tolerance. I haven't ever seen a 0.003 undersize bearing. They are usually 0.010, 0.020, 0.030 and are used for reground crank shafts. I hope, for your sake, that I am mistaken. HRL is likely standing on the sidelines for someone like myself to step in it with both feet, so that he can swoop in to the rescue, ridicule me in public for my ignorance, (which I welcome BTW. No lessons are better learned than those which involve pain or embarrassment.) Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,609 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,609 | Thanks Carl. I have seen bearings that were 0.001 and 0.002 oversize, and I presume they were manufactured to do exactly what I am trying to accomplish. I don't have the tools to accurately measure taper other than the plastigage. When I gauged the journal, there was little difference in the measurement from one side to the other, and scoring could barely be felt with my fingernail.
Just playing in the grease and oil.
Paul
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | I find it hard to believe that one main journal is worn that much, and different from the rest. Also, I wouldn't put a rod back together with .003". That would be right at the limit. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | Thanks Carl. I have seen bearings that were 0.001 and 0.002 oversize, and I presume they were manufactured to do exactly what I am trying to accomplish. I don't have the tools to accurately measure taper other than the plastigage. When I gauged the journal, there was little difference in the measurement from one side to the other, and scoring could barely be felt with my fingernail.
Just playing in the grease and oil.
Paul I hear you Paul. I always try to do what I can to get every mile out of my old engines. I recently forked over $2,300 to have a 235 thoroughly rebuilt. I would rather not have to do that again if I can help it. Do some research on checking for out-of-round. I think you will find it to be not too difficult, and you can add that task to your bragging list. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 57 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 57 | i would not suggest it nowadays.. but in the 60's during my used car lot days it was a common practice to file a rod cap some to clear up a rod knock.. but that was just a quick fix which was a toss up on how long it would last | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | i would not suggest it nowadays.. but in the 60's during my used car lot days it was a common practice to file a rod cap some to clear up a rod knock.. but that was just a quick fix which was a toss up on how long it would last Long enough for the check to clear so you can buy some new huge bell bottom wildly colored corduroy pants, a shirt with a giant collar, and a tacky sport suit jacket with the fake leather elbow pads. How big was your hair? Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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