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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,265 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 | Does anyone have photographs of the grease pencil firewall markings on the 1949 Chevrolet 3100 truck? I'm trying to determine what the firewall factory markings were on my '49. The previous owner painted over them. My truck has a 216 cu.in. with the SM420 4 speed. Deluxe 5 window cab and deluxe heater. Would like to put these grease pencil markings back on the firewall,or not?
Thanks,
Tim
"Pay attention to the details! It ALWAYS pays off."
1949 Chevrolet 3100 Series 1/2 ton Pickup 1964 Chevrolet C10 (Ol' Yella) (SOLD) 1958 Chevrolet Biscayne 2 door (SOLD) 1970 VW Beetle
| | | | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,927 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,927 | I remember that being discussed before. Have you tried the search function?
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | very unlikely there's 2 trucks around with the same marks, no one has ever come up with any documentation as to what any markings found actually mean or were for, and I'd say the majority of trucks had no marks when they left the factory .... put anything you like on it and stick to your story  Bill | | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 | Thank you guys for responding to my ridiculous request. I was really just trying to get an idea where these marking were located and a visual as to what they looked like. I think Bill is right about the markings not being the same on any one truck. They varied from worker to worker, day to day and on Mondays and Fridays. Wednesday was probably the best day being it was "hump" day leading to the weekend. Just sayin'......
Tim
"Pay attention to the details! It ALWAYS pays off."
1949 Chevrolet 3100 Series 1/2 ton Pickup 1964 Chevrolet C10 (Ol' Yella) (SOLD) 1958 Chevrolet Biscayne 2 door (SOLD) 1970 VW Beetle
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1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Carl, I do not think your request is ridiculous. A question about markings is posted every so often. If people post links to photos (give your name and truck year/model), I'd be pleased to put them in an album for people to view. Here is an album of photos of markings. | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Tim, Here's my firewall pic -- '49 3800, built in Norwood, OH August, 1949.
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | OK, John,
It is now in the album.
Just click on any photo and you can "scroll" through the album.
Thanks,
| | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | These might be the guys with the chalk ...pic... | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | DADS50, do you know year/make/model?
I've added it to the album.
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| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | The chalk/crayon/markings may go on earlier in the assembly line - most likely before the hood goes on?
Ain't is great: speculating over something we most likely will ever be certain about?
| | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | No year or plant info, found that on a google search Orgin vcca ? | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | I would guess on my 57 bigbolt, the markings were put on the firewall when it was a bare cab. To designate what options or deletes the truck got. For example: Down behind the engine it has (STD) probably standard trans. Then up higher on the left side of the firewall, it says: (deluxe heater) The rest of the numbers mean nothing to me, except it did come (delete radio, passenger sunvisor, armrests, cig lighter & rear view mirror.) All this was not written on the firewall, just a bunch of numbers.
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 112 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 112 | Fixit I am still kicking myself for not taking pics of the crayon marks on the firewall of my '57---there were 2 or 3 markings. It an Oakland, CA build. But I took it to my body shop in Casper, WY (Salt Creek Classics)a couple years ago and not thinking, I failed to take pics. Now the marks are all gone in the dust. That's life! I have some pics of the truck in its 'early' years, but none under the hood. delky dave in WYO
1957, 3100, v8 2016 gmc 4wd
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 | I had a yellow crayon mark on the left side of the firewall, no numbers on my 53 Oakland Plant. Try to find a pic. 1953 Chevrolet 3100261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY GalleryVideo of the 261 running1964 GMC 1000305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
| | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | This is from an earlier post I made about this but the info came from an article in the Old Cars Weekly a few months ago. It was a neat article by a guy who had worked his way up at GM from a "grunt" to a management employee. I wish more of these guys would step forward before its to late.
For what its worth: ...and a recent article by an assembly line worker from the later fifties said sometimes it was the previous workers initial signifying his job was done.....in one case the markings were under the fender on the inner fender and to keep from bending over they would hold a mirror under the fender to see it. Many have reported that some marking also indicate trim, engine and so on, or other options as it went down the line.....and that it may vary from plant to plant.
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