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#1067019 11/07/2014 4:16 PM
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I have decided to put a hyd. clutch in my 55/2 panel.i junked out the 216 and iam using a327 from a 1966 p/u.my problem is the bell crank is to long,so it interferes with steering. I am thinking hyd.any hints,pics or good advice would be appricated.TIA.

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what "bellcrank" interferes with the steering? many folks put small blocks in the TF series trucks without problems, they were originally an option

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What 55.2 had a 216? The mechanical clutch and steering are in the same place for all motors? John, define/refine your terms on this question to clarify what you have and what you are doing, please. All we have are words and we study them as best we can. A thorough explanation will get good, quick answers.

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according to the casting numbers list,my 55/2 panel had a 1949 216 eng.the bellcrank interferres with the steering box..i know the eng is located correctly.i am using the 1966 bellhousing.you are right,ITS JUST WORDS.

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so some PO stuck an old engine in the truck and you're scrapping that ..... you still haven't clarified what "bell crank" can affect the steering .... the clutch is nowhere near the steering

some 60's trucks used hydraulic clutches, if that's the bellhousing you have you should sell it and find a mechanical clutch housing and set the truck up the way it would originally have been, much easier than trying to find the other pieces needed that just add another point of potential failure

Bill


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i would prefer not to get into pi--ing contest with you.

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If you are speaking of the clutch bell crank, rip it out and install clutch master cylinder and plumb it to slave. The only contest is to get you to explain better. You are taking the fact that we can not understand exactly what you are doing as an insult. We don't know what else a PO did. Stock bell crank? Bell crank for what? Stock steering box? Left or right side slave? I was thinking that by 1966 the bell housings were mechanical clutch , left side. But you seem to indicate you are using 1966 and want hydraulic, so I guess you know the bell housing is set up for juice clutch. At least in this guessing game, that's what it seems. If the housing is set up for Hydraulic it will have two holes near fork window for mounting a slave cylinder. Those are only "hints" not" advice". Stay calm John, some of us need to get to the point without worrying about dainty feelings....and as you can see are tying to help. Good day sir.

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no pizzin involved John, just trying to understand what your problem is, I know of no "bellcrank" on a TF truck that would affect the steering or that is involved with the clutch, educate me please

if you just want to know how to set up a hydraulic clutch, a clear question to that effect in the 60-66 forum would probably get an answer from someone who has that stock setup

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I'm working on a Hydraulic setup for my 54. I'm swapping out the complete driveline and the trans I'm using requires a Hydraulic clutch.

Not for sure if you are keeping the underfloor pedals, but I've purchased a Jeep TJ clutch and pedal setup, which seem to be just what the doctor ordered. When scrolling through Rock Auto, a Toyota style clutch master cylinder is what I'm going to use.

I'm not for sure what you'll need for your bellhousing/clutch fork setup. There are a number of companies that make retrofit kits, but they seem to be a little pricey.

I'm thinking you could find something at the parts store that'll more than fit your needs.

The 92 and newer S10's along with the 92-95 trucks have a hydraulic slave that my fit the bill.

The 96 and newer GM trucks use an internal style slave cylinder, which is what the NV3500, T56, and Aisin transmissions use. It may be possible to retrofit to an early transmission.

Here's some links that you may find interesting.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=577322
http://www.hotrodhydraulics.com/GM-Product.htm





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