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| | Forums66 Topics126,780 Posts1,039,294 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | I am finally getting into the bodywork on the 57 GMC 370 LCF. I am very surprised, there is only one coat of paint, very thin now. Looks to be the original paint, never re-painted. With just a small amount of sanding and you are to bare shiny metal. I have not found any signs of a primer coat anywhere. Since GMC's were built for work back then, think the factory just said heck with primer??
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | ALL trucks were built for work, and GMCs were supposed to be the best [higher priced anyway  ], there was primer from the factory, all I've seen from the TF years had a black primer coat, like EDP and quite tough, can't imagine an LCF would have been treated different Bill | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | I think a lot of people expect to see a heavy layer of undercoat supporting the finish. The EDP coat was sufficient and was all that was used under the factory paint. DG
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | You know how it is, when you start removing stuff and really getting into one. You will notice all the details. Such as someone else has redone something, bondo, wiring messed with, layers of paint, dozens of small things....... I have not found one thing that did not look like it came from the factory. Such as the small metal covers that are screwed over the door hinges. It's a mystery. I am not doing any sandblasting. Just water sanding by hand. When it feathers out, there is no black or any other color. It just feathers out from red to bare metal. The doorjambs or anywhere show no signs of primer. I have done a lot of the old 2 cylinder John Deeres of the same vintage. They used a super great, yellow primer. I just thought this was strange. Maybe the EDP is there, and I am just not seeing it?
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | hmmmm, faded red paint job ... maybe GMC still used the red lead kinda primer and it's just not visible as a separate layer?
Bill | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | You know Bill, I had the same thought. I think you are right. One time I though I got a glimpse of something that looked like the old red oxide primer. But dismissed it. Yes, the faded red is unbelievable thin. It only take a few strokes with wet 220 grit to get through it.
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 | 60 years ago primer was applied for something for the paint to stick to and the old red oxide primer was not very thick. Not like today's primer that is also used to cover imperfections. | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | Crenwedge, at least some things have gotten better. I get primer from my Son's bodyshop. It is unreal how it covers sand marks and imperfections. He uses a 3-part primer. It's a primer-reducer-hardener mix. You can wet sand/block it once, then spray another coat and block/sand with 500 grit. Then you have a super smooth surface to paint on. (But it is expensive stuff)
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57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 | My 46 GMC had red oxide primer, so I think your 57 definitely would have had primer. | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,608 | I have encountered red oxide primer on all of the 1941-42 panels that I have worked. It is often relatively thin. | | |
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