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I'm going to be using a firewall mounted brake pedal (if anyone has a recommendation for a junkyard setup that will work, please share).

So what do I do about the clutch pedal? I'd like to have that hanging, too, and not have it through-floor.


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Be aware that hanging pedals need a lot of support, particularly for brake operation. The firewall alone is not strong enough to withstand a hard push during an energetic (panic!) stop. On the round track cars, we usually scavenged a complete clutch and brake pedal and pivot assembly from a 1970's or later pickup truck, and built a well-braced structure to mount it between the dash and the firewall. Clutch linkage can turn into quite an exercise in geometry unless you can go with a hydraulic release system and add a single-reservoir master cylinder for the clutch. One system I used a lot on the dirt track cars was the master and slave cylinder setup for a mid-1960's Dodge pickup. Those parts are still available from some of the online parts vendors. Try a 1965 Dodge D-100 clutch master and slave cylinder as a reference.
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Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
Be aware that hanging pedals need a lot of support, particularly for brake operation. The firewall alone is not strong enough to withstand a hard push during an energetic (panic!) stop. On the round track cars, we usually scavenged a complete clutch and brake pedal and pivot assembly from a 1970's or later pickup truck, and built a well-braced structure to mount it between the dash and the firewall. Clutch linkage can turn into quite an exercise in geometry unless you can go with a hydraulic release system and add a single-reservoir master cylinder for the clutch. One system I used a lot on the dirt track cars was the master and slave cylinder setup for a mid-1960's Dodge pickup. Those parts are still available from some of the online parts vendors. Try a 1965 Dodge D-100 clutch master and slave cylinder as a reference.
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If it went to the firewall they would have to have support brackets, for certain.

But I can't think of any way to hook up a hydro clutch to the 216 clutch assembly. Can anyone?

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If you want a hydraulic clutch you can mount the slave cylinder in place of the rod that connects to the through out arm. It takes some fabrication but it can be done. Then you need a master cylinder and a line from the master cylinder to the slave cylinder. As Jerry mentions you will need to stiffen and strengthen the firewall if your going to mount the clutch and brake pedals to it.

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late 90s chevy truck Hydro clutch Master and slave cylinder, that pushes the fork. There is even a bellhousing that holds the slave cylinder or design your own bracket. that's what's on my DD & I love it.

What Jerry said beef it up.
Fire wall mounting suggestion: We used the donor trucks bracket
& get the Steering column clamp for free.

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Wilwood has a couple options for pedal assemblies.

I've been searching for pedals too. Ford Explorer and GM van brake pedals look promising.

http://www.customclassictrucks.com/...pickup_firewall_fabrication/viewall.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Ford-E...arts_Accessories&hash=item2a3a7e63d0


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Originally Posted by Dogs51Burb
late 90s chevy truck Hydro clutch Master and slave cylinder, that pushes the fork. There is even a bellhousing that holds the slave cylinder or design your own bracket. that's what's on my DD & I love it.

What Jerry said beef it up.
Fire wall mounting suggestion: We used the donor trucks bracket
& get the Steering column clamp for free.

You used the bellhousing or designed your own? When you say late 90's Chevy truck, can you be more specific? What truck did that firewall bracket come out of?

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Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to change the clutch/brake pedals to a hanging assembly instead of the stock style?


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Originally Posted by LONGBOX55
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to change the clutch/brake pedals to a hanging assembly instead of the stock style?

In the hopes of having lower, adjustable pedals, and to get the master cylinder higher up.

Am I wrong in thinking I'll gain some space and be able to get the pedals lower like a more modern vehicle?

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The 60-62 Chevy pickups came from the factory with hydraulic clutches that had the slave cylinder mounted on the right (or passenger) side. They had seperate clutch and brake mster cylinders that are firewall mounted.


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A friend of mine did a 54 pu afew years ago and used a mid 70s firebird for donor car. He uesd the clutch brake pedal assy, bracket and all with very little mods.this also set him up to use a firewall mounted brake booster . Worked very well was almost a direct bolt in. Hope this info helps. Wher there is a will theres a way. One learns to be creative!

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60-62 chev v8 belhousings for juice clutch are rare on west coast,from what i remember.last 1 i boughyt was in late 70s.was for 292 in 62 panel.that rig with 4 speed ate bellhousings fast

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On my AD panel I used 1987 chevy truck pedal and column. the fit is awesome. I reused the 87 pedal, dash bracket , brake booster and column. If you can find a manual shift version of this I highly recommend. I am plating/bracing the firewall also.
I believe the parts I am referencing are through a wide set of years.


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