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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 | Hi all, I know that many of you have refaced gages. I'm halfway through the gage cluster on my '47 3100. I've started on the speedo and it's gone well so far (replaced the needle, repainted the bucket). I've sanded the face plate and was getting ready to apply the decals when I realized that the face plate has an embossed ridge: http://s1256.photobucket.com/user/B...p/Gages/IMG_0372.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0and here: http://s1256.photobucket.com/user/B...p/Gages/IMG_0354.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1Given that the decal sheet is once piece for the face plate, how have the rest of you dealt with this? Thanks for the help, Bill
1947 3100 Advanced Design
Never, never, never, never give up. - Churchill | | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 639 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 639 | When I did mine I applied the decal, then worked as much air/water out from around that ridge as I could and then let it set for a while. Every now and then, for the rest of the day, I would go back, pick the gauge up and work the decal into the ridge. It seems that the air/water would somehow work it's way out maybe through the face of the decal and it would stick better to the contour of the ridge. The next morning I went over it one more time before I installed it and it stuck and has stayed since.
Hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 | Thanks twotone.
I'll give that a try.
Best regards,
Bill
1947 3100 Advanced Design
Never, never, never, never give up. - Churchill | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 | If its a water slip decal you can greatly improve adhesion buy using Testors Decal Set. I sell water slip decals for GMC/Chevvy motors and recommend it.
You may have to find an actual model shop, usually not at wallyworld or toys-r-us. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | I use water with a little bit of dish washing liquid. You can move it around all you want and it is easy to squidgy out all of the water and air bubbles. Once you do that, it won't move.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 | A hair dryer helps with the raised area on the speedometer face as well as the rivet indentations in the fuel, oil pressure, charging and temp gauge. Just be careful not to get the decal too hot. The warm air helps remove the soapy water and bubbles too.
"Pay attention to the details! It ALWAYS pays off."
1949 Chevrolet 3100 Series 1/2 ton Pickup 1964 Chevrolet C10 (Ol' Yella) (SOLD) 1958 Chevrolet Biscayne 2 door (SOLD) 1970 VW Beetle
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 | Thanks all. I'll let you know how my project goes, with pics (if it's not embarrassing ;-) )
1947 3100 Advanced Design
Never, never, never, never give up. - Churchill | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Shouldn't there be a shaft showing in this pic? ...pic... | | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 | My needle popped out with a portion of the shaft attached to it: http://s1256.photobucket.com/user/B...p/Gages/IMG_0349.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3To the best of may ability to see, the remainder is a split shaft that the stub fits into, visible below the gage face in the picture you're referencing, DADS50. Have you ever seen one like this before? It's out of a 1947 3100 if that makes any difference in speedometer head design. I appreciate your feedback. Thanks and best regards, Bill
1947 3100 Advanced Design
Never, never, never, never give up. - Churchill | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Have you ever seen one like this before? It's out of a 1947 3100 if that makes any difference in speedometer head design. I'm not familiar with the 47, My 50 had a portion of the shaft protruding when the needle was removed. Hopefully someone will be along and let you know if that is normal for your 47. you will need to use the weight off your old needle and transfer it to your new one. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Well Bill, I thought I'd posted something last week about that very same thing. If the shaft came out with the needle, then you better get to looking for some new innards cus the shaft taint made to pop out, it snapped off at the root. http://www.classicparts.com/1949-51-Speedometer-80-mph-New/productinfo/24-305A/#.UzHxT8uPLccDenny G
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 | Denny, DADS50 (Gus?),
Thank you for pointing this out. I was preparing to tear down the odometer and put a lot of time into this rebuild. It would have been frustrating to do that and then discover that the head was no longer useable.
The replacement head you note has a white needle. I'm going to have to do some digging to try and find a '47.
I appreciate the help.
Bill
1947 3100 Advanced Design
Never, never, never, never give up. - Churchill | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | If you are that concerned with the authenticity of the restoration then you could always, with a little masking you could shoot the plastic needle with a translucent red paint: http://www.rakuten.com/prod/vht-sp8...d=18179&gclid=CLaA1_CqsL0CFYZAMgodsx0ArAI've seen several of the reproduction instruments and unlike a lot of the reproductions, they are almost perfect matches and look very original. Cept they're not worn out and faded. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 | Looks like your needle shaft snapped off. Have not seen a 47 but all the other AD truck speedometers I've seen have the shaft extending beyond the dial once you pop the needle off. Looks like you may need a new speedometer mechanism. $130.00 to $165.00 depending on where you purchase.
"Pay attention to the details! It ALWAYS pays off."
1949 Chevrolet 3100 Series 1/2 ton Pickup 1964 Chevrolet C10 (Ol' Yella) (SOLD) 1958 Chevrolet Biscayne 2 door (SOLD) 1970 VW Beetle
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 863 | Bill, you can find the speedo innards on E-Bay for $150.00 and change with shipping included. Look under 1947-1950 Chevrolet truck speedometer.
"Pay attention to the details! It ALWAYS pays off."
1949 Chevrolet 3100 Series 1/2 ton Pickup 1964 Chevrolet C10 (Ol' Yella) (SOLD) 1958 Chevrolet Biscayne 2 door (SOLD) 1970 VW Beetle
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Fixit, best go back and reread from the beginning of the thread, all of that's been covered.
dg
Denny G Sandwich, IL
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