much better than phillips, but they can cam out if they have dirt in them or are really corroded .... they weren't 'phased out', GM just stopped using them, the drivers and bits are available all over [like NAPA], and the screw type was used on trailers and motor home bodies for decades, a trailer supply place is a good spot to find the screws and drivers

Bill


Moved over to the Passing Lane

"When we tug a single thing in nature, we find it attached to the rest of the world" ~ John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics