These were put on the stock wheels, no tubes. I've read several debates on here about whether to use tubes or not but without good proof that one would need the tubes I decided not to ues them since the manufacture says "tubeless". I'm not wanting or intending to start the tube/tubeless debate here. My point was merely the ride and handling (steering) was a complete 100% difference. Not even comparable.

Last edited by Panhead59; 12/10/2012 11:51 AM.

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