Phat, Subaru did away with the "hill holder" after the 1994 model year. I asked the parts dept. at the dealer why and he said they had too many of them come back defective or leaking. I have an '87 Subaru wagon that has the hill holder and it still works fine. No leaks either. You can shim the foreward edge of the valve up or down to get it to actuate on steeper or lower grades. We'll probably never see something like that in an "American" car (not counting the Stude's), it makes too much sense. People are happy with their SUV's with the extra power outlet for the cell phone and dual cup holders for their latte's. Most of them don't know how to drive in the snow....... :rolleyes: eek grin


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