ok folks,first let me start by saying thank you for all your help,i got both rear drums off today,it turns out,you guys are right it did turn both ways,what happened was it was all the way de-adjusted the wheel clyinders were completely rusted they would not move, after sitting 30 years so we used a couple of pry bars and hammers and beat the crap out of it and finally it came off.
thanks again
