Apologies not needed, I just didn't want you to think the first place I went was directly to post my question, I know server time and space is at a premium (I have donated to Peg and John to help with a small amount of costs) The search feature when it does work is a good tool, that way you can read what you want and not have to wait a day or two until someone with the knowledge you are seeking signs on. It allows you to read the same question that was asked and answered a few months or in some cases a few years ago... just didn't want anyone to think I was being lazy in a nut shell. I got my answer and I am going to drop the cross member today and see how I make out with that! Thanks Dave!

Regards, John