Well, I used the Ball joint Pickle Fork (put grease on the fork and it didn't rip the boot) and with a couple good smacks it broke loose!!! (LOWER BALL JOINT) Great news, but when I put on the new spindle and started tightening the nut - the ball joint stud rotates with the nut... Does this mean the ball joints Broken, or do I need to compress the spindle on the shaft a bit first? Not really a Ball joint Guy, I don't know exactly what kind of motion is OK.