yes freak, 3800 is the 1 ton series ... and 03 [as in 3103] is the cab and chassis model, 04 is the pickup, 05 is a panel and 06 [barn doors] or 16 [clam gate] is the burb grin

Bill

Moved over to the Passing Lane

"When we tug a single thing in nature we find it attached to the rest of the world" John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics & Rust-a-holics Unanimous parking lot