i sure hope we don't copy the hamb aproach to rat rods, i get pretty sick of reading about it there. i don't have one but i bet the first one was prob pretty interesting and different, it's just the fact so many are copying that same style like the one in hot rod john's last link. those extreme ones aren't meant to be driven, but a lot of people on here even want to lower their truck to the point of it's not a useful truck anymore. if they want to do it more power to them and in some ways they look pretty cool. i like the idea of building them on the cheap if that's all you got.